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Old 02-24-2019, 10:14 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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The elite - the very wealthy, who want cheap labor. Certainly not the middle-class.


Which is why it is all the more strange that liberals fight so hard for workers that the wealthy/elite are using to keep the middle- and lower-classes wages stagnant or regressive.
Small business owners are the majority employers of undocumented people.
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Old 02-24-2019, 10:37 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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I'm not getting the neo-Nazi allegation. The US LEFT-wing is anti-Semitic, not the right-wing. Have you not heard MN's Congresswoman Omar's anti-Semitic slurs? Have you not noticed that the Women's March (pussyhat) organizers are anti-Semitic?
A figurative handful do not define any political party. Both parties attract a percentage with extreme viewpoints.

Arthur Jones, former head of some sort of Nazi party, Holocaust denier and white supremist ran as the Republican candidate for Congress in Illinois 3 rd district. Despite is views, including but not limited to legislation that would enable neighborhoods to vote black, brown, Jewish and Muslim people out of the neighborhood, he managed to get 26.5% of the vote.

Unknown how many voted for him because they voted a straight Republican ticket vs voted against his Democrat opponent or because they agreed with his message.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur


There’s a reason why more people identify as Unaffiliated/ Independent than either Republican or Democrat.
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Old 02-24-2019, 10:53 AM
 
Location: Nowhere
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Chicago is a booming and vibrant city. If the city was a state by itself, it would have the 6th largest economy in the US - greater than any states besides California, Texas, New York, Florida and Pennsylvania. Folks who belittle it are CLUELESS.

Ken
Nonsense. The entire State of Ill is rife with corrupt politicians, and as I pointed out above, Chicago is no different:


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"What we find is a very dreary picture. In nearly every sector, whether you talk about aldermen, you talk about Chicago schools, you talk about contracts, in every area corruption is still rife in the city of Chicago," said Dick Simpson, lead author of the "Continuing Corruption in Illinois" study and a University of Illinois Chicago political science professor.

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"What that means is that it's harder to get businesses to come here because of its corrupt state, we're losing population and corruption is one of the reasons we're losing population. We have undermined faith in government," Simpson said.
Chicago Most Corrupt City in America
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Old 02-24-2019, 10:59 AM
 
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The middle class blue collar family from the 1950's, 1960's, and 1970, when a man didn't need a college diploma or even a high school diploma to get a job in a factory and make enough money so his wife could stay home and take care of the kids, and have a nice late model vehicle, and a 2nd vehicle, and be able to family vacation every year, and send the kids to college.

That's how life was back then for many, if not most Baby Boomers. But those days are long gone, I'm sad to say. How I would love to go back to those days. Everything was original. The best tv shows. The best music. The best entertainment. Even cartoons were better back then. I could go on and on. Life was so much simpler then.

I think that's the era people are talking about when they say "Make America Great Again".
Not that this is the most important aspect of this conversation, but you're living in a fantasy world if you think the quality of TV shows was better in those days. They had a captive audience to a handful of channels. Primetime hits were an absolute joke in comparison to series on Netflix or HBO or even some regular channels. Something like Gotham is so far and above the quality of what you were getting then. Everything was filmed on the same LA back-lots, no location shooting. Just horrible.
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Old 02-24-2019, 12:41 PM
 
Location: SE Arizona - FINALLY! :D
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Nonsense. The entire State of Ill is rife with corrupt politicians, and as I pointed out above, Chicago is no different:




Chicago Most Corrupt City in America
Even ASSUMING it's true - which it probably is - WHAT does that have to do with what I posted?
Does that somehow change the size of the economy?


Ken
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Old 02-24-2019, 12:53 PM
 
Location: Nowhere
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Even ASSUMING it's true - which it probably is - WHAT does that have to do with what I posted?
Does that somehow change the size of the economy?


Ken
Most corrupt city in America.


What more is there to say?
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Old 02-24-2019, 01:01 PM
 
Location: Katy,Texas
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From the article...



Fox reported a University of Illinois study... So stop with the Fox lies BS...
Just because it's from a University study doesn't mean Fox news isn't trying to lie to you. It's a map of poverty as it relates to the size of a Metropolitan area the most important statistic, yet they only show a map of Chicago and not the metropolitan area therefore straight up lying to their viewers, and banking on their viewers to go spread the fake news that Chicago is a bigger hellhole now than it was in 1970.

What they don't tell you is that in 1970... Chicago had 811 murders for 3.4 million people, a lot of killings in those small areas of poverty and those middle class neighborhoods huh. I bet you wouldn't guess that Chicago had roughly 560 murders for 2.7 million people last year or so that the media has been absolutely hating on the city. This year it's currently on track for less than 400 murders too.

https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...htmlstory.html
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Old 02-24-2019, 01:08 PM
 
Location: USA
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It's called the market: rich people want to live in Chicago, and middle class people find cheaper land/housing in the suburbs. Should the government pass laws or subsidize more housing? Fox News and the right love to rag on evil urban liberals, but they have no conservative solutions to any of the problems in American cities.
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Old 02-24-2019, 01:09 PM
 
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Does this Tucker explain to you the implications of the tax cuts to the wealthy? I can see how watching him would be scary for those that have little more than a surface understanding of capitalism and how this country works. Tucker is being irresponsible. Yes, he brings up excellent points but uses fear instead of educating you all. Remember, it is Fox Entertainment.
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Old 02-24-2019, 01:11 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Chicago is a booming and vibrant city.
The FBI says 765 people were murdered in Chicago in 2016. That's more than the total number in New York City and Los Angeles combined.
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