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Old 07-20-2018, 09:36 AM
 
Location: Manchester NH
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Originally Posted by trobesmom View Post
I don't know who boobus is, but I know someone in the White House who does exactly what his Russian handler tells him.
No. Name pro-Russia policy Trump has passed or put into affect.

Though maybe he should:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJBQikfYyKs

 
Old 07-20-2018, 10:16 AM
 
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Why do you insist on posting lies? There is direct evidence of the Russian government’s involvement with Facebook advertisements, as well as direct evidence that the Russian government sought to influence the 2016 election.
Face book ads....by "Russians".....Some of which were positive of Bernie Sanders.


if Russia can hack our elections with the means and resources they used, we are doomed.

You have to be a naive moron to not know the US does this more than any other actor. The US had NGOs in China and Russia which they have cracked down on because , yes the US uses them for regime change. They have been caught doing it in Bolivia, Cuba , Eastern Europe etc. USAID has been tossed from Bolivia for this reason.



https://nonprofitquarterly.org/2015/...-deregistered/

For some reason India is not relevant to this discussion. Why is India concerned about these Western NGOs? We all know the US would never meddle in anyone's election because the USA is a shinning beacon of light on the hill.

US NGO Uncovered in Ukraine Protests

The take away is that the best defense is critical thinking because everyone will be happy to manipulate you for their ends in places both foreign and domestic.
 
Old 07-20-2018, 10:23 AM
 
Location: Tri STATE!!!
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All masses of people can be influenced. That's why advertisment is a multi billion dollar industry. It works. Of you can convince people to spend thousands on their lawns you can convince them to send their sons to war. Americans just are not educated enough on science , math, history and geography in order to make informed choices. That's why when somebody in this forum says "just nuke em" I know the convo is over.
 
Old 07-20-2018, 02:54 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Originally Posted by trobesmom View Post
I don't know who boobus is, but I know someone in the White House who does exactly what his Russian handler tells him.
Like kill 200+ Russians in Syria?
 
Old 07-20-2018, 02:59 PM
 
Location: Manchester NH
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Like kill 200+ Russians in Syria?
Like the video above said. They will never allow a debate on this issue because they know they will lose.
 
Old 07-20-2018, 03:40 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Winterfall8324 View Post
Every time.

We know the Government performed a coup in Ukraine to keep NATO friendly powers in office, we know they armed terrorist in Syria.

We know they are carpet bombing Yemen and destroying Somalia. We know we need a bad guy (Putin) to have so the MIC can garner more support for military action.

We know the media is state propaganda that calls out people who aren't being 'patriotic' enough (not worshiping the state).

We know Brennan has committed international crimes and has broken the Geneva convention, same with all his successors.

And yet it takes only a short period of time for the media to convince Americans Putin is the true enemy because of Facebook posts (and no evidence of government involvement).

Now rather than punishing Trump for illegally droning children in Niger, we are calling him to be charged for treason for acknowledging a widely accepted fact, that the US has been the major deterrent to improved Russia-US relationships.

And yet everyone on this forum just eats it all up.
How is the weather in Moscow this week comrade? At least we found one of the Russian bots on here.
 
Old 07-20-2018, 04:03 PM
 
Location: AZ
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Originally Posted by gwynedd1 View Post
Face book ads....by "Russians".....Some of which were positive of Bernie Sanders.


if Russia can hack our elections with the means and resources they used, we are doomed.

You have to be a naive moron to not know the US does this more than any other actor. The US had NGOs in China and Russia which they have cracked down on because , yes the US uses them for regime change. They have been caught doing it in Bolivia, Cuba , Eastern Europe etc. USAID has been tossed from Bolivia for this reason.



https://nonprofitquarterly.org/2015/...-deregistered/

For some reason India is not relevant to this discussion. Why is India concerned about these Western NGOs? We all know the US would never meddle in anyone's election because the USA is a shinning beacon of light on the hill.

US NGO Uncovered in Ukraine Protests

The take away is that the best defense is critical thinking because everyone will be happy to manipulate you for their ends in places both foreign and domestic.
This isn’t a response to my comment.

One can other be pissed that the Russian Government hacked us, while still being pissed off we do the same.

They are not mutually exclusive.
 
Old 07-20-2018, 08:02 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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Originally Posted by subaru5555 View Post
Why do you insist on posting lies? There is direct evidence of the Russian government’s involvement with Facebook advertisements, as well as direct evidence that the Russian government sought to influence the 2016 election.
The US government meddles in and attempts to influence foreign elections, too, it just keeps that a secret from the American people.

Perhaps if the US hadn't meddled in the Russian 2012 Election, Russia would not have attempted to interfere in the US 2016 Election.

What's good for the goose is good for the gander.

The alleged attempts by "Russia" are rather lame.

There were 20 unsuccessful attempts by someone to hack into State voter registration databases, but there are 50 US States not, 20, and in many of those States, the pollsters had already declared Trump the winner.

The one State that was hacked was Illinois, but no information in the database was altered or deleted.

The password for a county election worker in Arizona was compromised, but no attempts were made to seize on that opportunity.

And then one or more persons, alleged to be Russians, bought advertising on social media platforms.

That's hardly persuasive.
 
Old 07-20-2018, 08:56 PM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
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By revealing truths about Hilliary..yeah lets bomb them
Except RWNJ's are the only faction saying 'let's bomb them'.

As usual, they need to tone down their rhetoric.
 
Old 07-21-2018, 01:25 AM
 
Location: AZ
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The US government meddles in and attempts to influence foreign elections, too, it just keeps that a secret from the American people.

Perhaps if the US hadn't meddled in the Russian 2012 Election, Russia would not have attempted to interfere in the US 2016 Election.

What's good for the goose is good for the gander.

The alleged attempts by "Russia" are rather lame.

There were 20 unsuccessful attempts by someone to hack into State voter registration databases, but there are 50 US States not, 20, and in many of those States, the pollsters had already declared Trump the winner.

The one State that was hacked was Illinois, but no information in the database was altered or deleted.

The password for a county election worker in Arizona was compromised, but no attempts were made to seize on that opportunity.

And then one or more persons, alleged to be Russians, bought advertising on social media platforms.

That's hardly persuasive.

The Russian GRU hacked the RNC, DNC, DCCC, voting machine manufactures and dozens of state voter registration databases.

It is a lie to say they are “alleged”.

One can be pissed that the Russian Government hacked us, while still being pissed off we do the same.
They are not mutually exclusive, despite the right desperately wanting it so.

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