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Old 03-05-2018, 11:26 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Are you a citizen of your County/Parish first, before your community?

Are you a citizen of your State, before you are a citizen of your county?

Are you a citizen of the USA, before you are a citizen of your state?

Or is it just the opposite and you are a citizen of your community, first and foremost?



We could learn a lot from the differing opinions, with this gem.
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Old 03-05-2018, 11:29 AM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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I'm not a citizen. I never consented to any such agreements.

I prefer the title of POW if anything.

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Old 03-05-2018, 11:29 AM
 
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Having been raised in a military family that moved every 3-4 years growing up and that stuck in my blood where I continue to do that in adulthood, I would say US citizen first. Locale changes too frequently to have deep roots.
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Old 03-05-2018, 11:29 AM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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I'm not a citizen. I never consented to any such agreements.

I prefer the title of POW if anything.

Co-signed.
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Old 03-05-2018, 11:32 AM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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I never signed any "Constitution" or "Social Contract," so I'm basically a victim of the Mafia...er, the State. I never consented to being ruled.

If I was a freedman and actually had liberty I would self-govern.
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Old 03-05-2018, 11:34 AM
 
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I’m an American first. Anyone who hates it here so much that they consider themselves a POW is ironically free to leave. It’s very disrespectful to people to have been Prisoners of War for an American Cizen to call themselves that .
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Old 03-05-2018, 11:35 AM
 
Location: Denver
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I'm not a citizen. I never consented to any such agreements.

I prefer the title of POW if anything.

Agreed. If given the choice when being born, I would have preferred Germany, Austria or Switzerland to the US. Significantly better social reforms around healthcare, education and environmental policies.

As to the initial question, local first, country second. Not only can I actually have an impact on local policies, but local politicians are more often held accountable and are more in touch with their constitutes than federal level ones.
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Old 03-05-2018, 11:37 AM
 
Location: Morrison, CO
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Local, State, Federal. In that order. That's the way it is supposed to be. I have more influence on the statist governments the closer I am. That is why Globalism won't work.
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Old 03-05-2018, 11:39 AM
 
Location: Denver
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I’m an American first. Anyone who hates it here so much that they consider themselves a POW is ironically free to leave. It’s very disrespectful to people to have been Prisoners of War for an American Cizen to call themselves that .
Queue the usual, "If you don't like it, get out" comment.

I wouldn't consider it a prisoner of war, more like a prisoner of federal rule, enslaved by policies argued by old rich men. The number of times we've just seen party line votes is sickening. No one is actually discussing what is best for your average American anymore.
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Old 03-05-2018, 11:43 AM
 
Location: TEXAS
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Agreed. If given the choice when being born, I would have preferred Germany, Austria or Switzerland to the US. Significantly better social reforms around healthcare, education and environmental policies.
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If those are so much better - WHY are you still here ?????
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