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The problem is we are a MAJORITY now...over three million more votes in the last election...and we can't influence the government in any way right now. Protest is the only means we have of being heard.
Coming up with real ideas and solutions come to mind as another way.
Middle America. Dems are down to Acela Belt plus Wacko West Coast, but lost all 2,000 plus miles in between.
ACELA plus West Coast < 270.
No Rust Belt SWEEP for Team Blue = no POTUS. Simply winning say 2 of 3 (Michigan, Wisconsin, & Ohio) not enough. Team Red adds 6-12 seats in southeast soon from Blue via census as Team Blue residents flee NY and like states.
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Democrats are anti Trump and have been doing a good job of keeping the heat on, but being anti Trump wasn't sufficient for them to win 2016. So what are Democrats doing internally to fix the electoral mess they're in.
I guess if they want to win that badly, then they'll just have to campaign harder. The way they're behaving, by inciting threats and violence and rioting, is going to turn more people away from that party as time goes on. People are going to get tired of it. Democrats, or people that say they are, are just simply making nuisances and fools of themselves.
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Encouraging their constituents to block traffic and destroy property?
That's exactly what's happening. They're offering a distinction between the way they behave and the rest of us peaceful, law-abiding citizens who'd much rather see peace in our world.
LOL... I'll tell that to my friend who just this moment sent me a picture of some protesters who showed up to his job site in hoodies, face paint, masks, and with clubs... I'll be sure and tell him they're there to be peaceful. You can blow unicorns and rainbows up someone else's butt.... I'm not buying it anymore.
Those are paid agitators furnished courtesy of the Koch brothers. Do not kid yourself here.
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Originally Posted by voiceofreazon
Most of the demonstrations are NOT peaceful and many will defend, deny and try to ignore the violence that happens in them.
Most of the demonstrations were peaceful; I hate to tell you.
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For every "progressive " vote someone like Ellison would get he would lose one moderate and independent
No moderate Democrats will be voting for Trump.
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The only violence at the march in St Paul came from the right.
Exactly.
I think the Democratic party is trying to analyze their losses - I mean it's not like you guys are present at their retreat.
That said, there is a fight within the Democratic party for who will reign - moderate Democrats? Or more left Bernie Democrats?
Democrats are anti Trump and have been doing a good job of keeping the heat on, but being anti Trump wasn't sufficient for them to win 2016. So what are Democrats doing internally to fix the electoral mess they're in.
Has it at all occurred to you that they're doing something right now? All that happened to the Democrats that can be easily addressed is the lack of people showing up to vote.
Trump won due to Obama backlash and a general dislike of Clinton, despite her actual qualifications.
Once Trump screws up some more, the pendulum will swing back into the other direction. This happens pretty often. See: Most other elections in our lifetimes.
Seriously... Bush Sr's win was a fluke and he could only hold the office for one term, just like Carter did (his election was Nixon backlash).
Sooo... the back and forth thing is the norm.
This isn't some "wow... the Dems suddenly cannot do ANYTHING right and the Repubs are GENIUSES" deal.
Trump may completely ruin the Republican party.
I'm not a party person, so I don't really care.
But, to harp on the Dems like they all (as a group of citizens) went out and did some terrible thing that the Repubs (as a group) would NEVER do is just not reasonable.
After all, the Repubs voted for an inexperienced, inept, lying, hypocritical, ***** grabber for president.
I guess they wanted an R in office more than they wanted their self esteem.
Eh. They'll regret it.
Some already do.
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House: Republican
Supreme Court: Conservative
State Legislature: majority Republican
Governorships: 33 of 50 Republican
Dems: worst shape since the 1920s and face an unfavorable 2018 Senate map
Gerrymandering tends to do that.
Do you know why the Rs are in such a hurry to do stuff that they're hanging on to Trump even though he's a loon?
Because they know that the backlash for Trump will come in 2018 and while it may not overtake all offices, it'll seriously cut into their numbers.
Because there are plenty of moderate Rs and Independents who will find themselves presented with the opportunity to vote for a moderate Dem for a Senate or House seat and they'll quietly do just that.
Add to that the Dems who do not usually vote who are disgusted with Trump and Congress and you will see some changes in 2018, no matter whether districts are gerrymandered or not.
Even among Republicans, the old school, super conservative ways are dying out.
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The way they're behaving, by inciting threats and violence and rioting, is going to turn more people away from that party as time goes on. People are going to get tired of it. Democrats, or people that say they are, are just simply making nuisances and fools of themselves. 
