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Old 10-17-2015, 11:47 AM
 
Location: OC/LA
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The broad trend has been toward a shrinking conservative advantage

Eventually the GOP is going to realize that bowing before the Bible thumpers is a losing proposition.


On Social Ideology, the Left Catches Up to the Right
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Old 10-17-2015, 11:55 AM
 
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Eventually will be a long time. Neither of the parties are ideologically coherent.

The Republicans are a coalition of social conservatives, libertarians who care more about economic issues than social issues, core conservatives, middle and high income moderates, and white fascists.

The Democrats are a coalition of core liberals, unionists, libertarians who care more about social issues than economic issues, low-income moderates, and black fascists.

Even if the general population moves to the left on social issues -- and it has, especially on gay rights -- one of the parties will take a more rightward stance than the population as a whole to draw the social conservatives who remain into their coalition.
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Old 10-17-2015, 11:57 AM
 
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The broad trend has been toward a shrinking conservative advantage

Eventually the GOP is going to realize that bowing before the Bible thumpers is a losing proposition.


On Social Ideology, the Left Catches Up to the Right
Exactly. Republicans are the problem. The solution is to promise and deliver freebies to everyone in order to buy their votes. Has worked like a charm for decades. Next up is the student loan bailouts to buy the younger votes. Make the Republicans pick up the tab too.
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Old 10-17-2015, 12:06 PM
 
Location: california
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What is it they say ,you can't fix stupid , I guess they are proving it.
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Old 10-17-2015, 12:08 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Eventually will be a long time. Neither of the parties are ideologically coherent.

The Republicans are a coalition of social conservatives, libertarians who care more about economic issues than social issues, core conservatives, middle and high income moderates, and white fascists.

The Democrats are a coalition of core liberals, unionists, libertarians who care more about social issues than economic issues, low-income moderates, and black fascists.

Even if the general population moves to the left on social issues -- and it has, especially on gay rights -- one of the parties will take a more rightward stance than the population as a whole to draw the social conservatives who remain into their coalition.
Your stereotypical definition are somewhat exaggerated and illogical by definition, and oddly, you've totally omitted high and middle income moderate Democrats. Simply because the liberal and centrist Democrats are more cohesive does not mean there is not a difference between the two.

Inequality, poverty divide Republicans more than Democrats | Pew Research Center
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Old 10-17-2015, 12:15 PM
 
Location: Flyover Country
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The broad trend has been toward a shrinking conservative advantage

Eventually the GOP is going to realize that bowing before the Bible thumpers is a losing proposition.


On Social Ideology, the Left Catches Up to the Right
They are not completely stupid, they know the math, that's why they are increasingly turning to voter disenfranchisement to make up the deficit
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Old 10-17-2015, 12:23 PM
 
Location: Sandpoint, Idaho
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The broad trend has been toward a shrinking conservative advantage

Eventually the GOP is going to realize that bowing before the Bible thumpers is a losing proposition.


On Social Ideology, the Left Catches Up to the Right
I don;t see that as hopeful, but troubling.

Although not a Christian myself, I enjoying living in Christian communities who value time-honored family ties and community service. They are the most pleasant places I have lived. While there are a few old goats, most are exceedingly tolerant, helpful and kind.

In contrast in the "developed" and "sophisticated" cities I have lived in, even among fellow Atheists, I dramatically lower expectations as to quality of life as provided by my environs. And among other religions, I often must walk on egg shells as the zero-tolerance policies are often in effect and readily enforced.

S.
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Old 10-17-2015, 12:34 PM
 
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Your stereotypical definition are somewhat exaggerated and illogical by definition, and oddly, you've totally omitted high and middle income moderate Democrats. Simply because the liberal and centrist Democrats are more cohesive does not mean there is not a difference between the two.

Inequality, poverty divide Republicans more than Democrats | Pew Research Center
No, I haven't. The people who vote based on personal economic interests tend to be the people who don't have a strong ideology. There are lots of middle class and wealthy liberals, unionists, social-issue favoring libertarians, and African-American fascists, just like there are lots of poor conservatives, social conservatives, economic-issue favoring libertarians, and Caucasian fascists. Those people certainly do exist, they just tend to vote their politics over their wallets or simply not show up to the polls if the dissonance between their personal interests and political beliefs is too unbridgeable.

At the end of the day if a political interest group is big enough to swing elections or primaries someone will court them.
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Old 10-17-2015, 01:13 PM
 
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Oh look, another LWNJ circle jerk thread.
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Old 10-17-2015, 01:15 PM
 
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Yawn...
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