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Old 10-14-2015, 08:31 AM
 
Location: Japan
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Originally Posted by AfriqueNY View Post
Well. If we are going to be honest here. Just say that all non white People are savages that need to be trained and taught how to be human. Columbus did those tainos a favor. He cut off hands and feet and raped young girls so that those savages could get civilized. Those savage fools didn't even know what to do with their fish, gold, fertile land and fruits and sugar. How dare they be so ungrateful for what Cristobal colon has done for them. Their descendents now have cable TV and iphones and sneakers . they should be grateful . shame on them. And shame on those uncivilized blacks who got a free ride to the land of the good and plenty. We all know the white man is superior and we should thank our lucky stars that they gave us our freedom after a bloody civil war. See. The Arabs and Persians should learn from them. So should the Asians. Let us show you savages what to do with your lands and oil and resources. You obviously are genetically inferior .

To me. This is what Columbus day represents...
... because your worldview is the very definition of racism and everything you see is colored by your racial hostility.

 
Old 10-14-2015, 08:42 AM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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The country is also named after Columbus.
Huh?
 
Old 10-14-2015, 08:45 AM
 
Location: Japan
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Huh?
The name "Colombia" is derived from the last name of Christopher Columbus (Italian: Cristoforo Colombo, Spanish: Cristóbal Colón). It was conceived by the Venezuelan revolutionary Francisco de Miranda as a reference to all the New World, but especially to those under the Spanish and Portuguese rule.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colombia
 
Old 10-14-2015, 09:02 AM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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Originally Posted by GeneR View Post
Erasing (rewriting?) history is not a new phenomenon. Going back as recently as the last century we saw it in Russia's 1917 revolution, in the 1960's there was the Cultural Revolution in China (Destruction of the Four Olds: Customs, Culture, Habits and Ideas), in the Islamic world ISIS destroys cultural artifacts, now in the U.S. we see efforts to erase history by removing anything representing the Confederacy. Columbus is yet another example of a political movement to erase the reality of the past. It is commonly referred to as "cultural genocide" and it is alive and well in the U.S. today.
I look at it quite differently.

At first glance it would seem that history is static. But it's really not. Historians are constantly learning new information about historical events and time periods.

Additionally, time gives us perspective. Ask the average American to tell you about Quemoy and Matsu, and they'll look at you with a totally blank countenance. But in 1960, Quemoy and Matsu were hot topics at the presidential debates and there was a fear of war with China over those 2 islands. History gives perspective...to those willing to accept it.

And, in the same vein, time sets new priorities. Culture evolves. New events come in and take the place of old events in the nation's past. Priorities change. To my generation, most people could tell you where they were and what they were doing when Kennedy was shot. To my father's generation, they could tell you where they were and what they were doing when V-E Day was announced. To a later generation it was where they were and what they were doing on 9-11 when the Twin Towers were hit.

Historical thought evolves.
 
Old 10-14-2015, 09:20 AM
 
Location: Howard County, Maryland
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To most Americans, Columbus Day is just another paid day off from work. Nobody care why they get a 3-day weekend. Drop Columbus Day. We have way too many holidays in our country.
There are a total of 10 federal holidays per year, an average of one every 5 weeks. If this is too many, how many do you think we should have?
 
Old 10-14-2015, 10:23 AM
 
Location: Tri STATE!!!
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My worldview is that of a progressive. Progress is moving forward. Moving past enjoying the spoils of war. Let's use what we have to improve our situation. But make no mistake, if we are not honest about history we will be doomed to repeat it.
 
Old 10-14-2015, 10:56 AM
 
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It shows the logic of people that look to the "real history" of how America was founded and shaped. Both of these are situations dealt with Natives. One group were massacred while another faced "slavery." The massacre was easy to refute, the dates of the event were off based on the written word. The natives being forced into slavery depends on the written word though plausible. The fact is some people do in fact make these ancient American settlers and explorers hurt the indigenous Americans.
Why is slavery in quotes? You really think he didn't start the Atlantic slave trade?
 
Old 10-14-2015, 11:07 AM
 
Location: TPA
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You mean Amerigo Vespucci Day?
 
Old 10-14-2015, 12:31 PM
 
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I'll just keep celebrating it as Festivus
 
Old 10-14-2015, 12:32 PM
 
Location: Bel Air, California
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better leave Talk Like a Pirate Day alone
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