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Old 09-21-2015, 10:35 AM
 
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Sometimes people seem to miss the point. I think Verge said it best when Richard Dawkins made the same mistake (Richard Dawkins calling Ahmed Mohamed a fraud is everything wrong with Richard Dawkins | The Verge
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it does seem likely that the clock that got Mohamed arrested wasn't made from scratch, but it hardly seems like it should need pointing out that this doesn't matter in the slightest.


he built a clock. If he started with a 1980s clock and dissembled and reassembled. . .that doesn't change much. Dad said he likes "tearing things apart and putting back together".

he didn't make the clock from scratch.

big deal

that isn't the f'n point.



Then it gets worse. your falling back on the same Racism that Richard Dawkins fell on. Like this kid could of forecasted that assembling a home made clock could of landed him in jail. There is no way anyone could of predicted that



if your looking for a reason to hate this story, and agree with the police. you have problems.

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Originally Posted by neko_mimi View Post
So it looks like this clock that he claims to have "invented" was not constructed or designed by him. He basically took a production clock that he purchased, took it out of the plastic enclosure, and then put it in a case to make it look like a project of his.

So what's the deal with a muslim kid bringing a clock to school that "resembles a bomb"? I don't know, but it also turns out that his dad is a Sharia activist. Hmmm...

Reverse Engineering Ahmed Mohamed’s Clock… and Ourselves. | Tech Voice

 
Old 09-21-2015, 11:15 AM
 
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^^ You can spot the bias in that article just from this one disingenuous analogy they made:

"would you tell a child off for saying they made you a cake using ready-made cake mix"

A more proper analogy would be a child putting a store-bought cake in a box and claiming they made it. Big difference. Look, the dad is an Islamic activist who had the media on speed-dial just waiting for the trap to spring which it did. Coincidence? Please. You can try to twist things any way you want, but the cat is out of the bag.
 
Old 09-21-2015, 11:33 AM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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^^ You can spot the bias in that article just from this one disingenuous analogy they made:

"would you tell a child off for saying they made you a cake using ready-made cake mix"

A more proper analogy would be a child putting a store-bought cake in a box and claiming they made it. Big difference. Look, the dad is an Islamic activist who had the media on speed-dial just waiting for the trap to spring which it did. Coincidence? Please. You can try to twist things any way you want, but the cat is out of the bag.
Well, only if they took the store bought cake out of it's container and put it in one from their cupboard. Oh...wait, that is sort of the same thing.
 
Old 09-21-2015, 11:40 AM
 
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^^ You can spot the bias in that article just from this one disingenuous analogy they made:

"would you tell a child off for saying they made you a cake using ready-made cake mix"

A more proper analogy would be a child putting a store-bought cake in a box and claiming they made it. Big difference. Look, the dad is an Islamic activist who had the media on speed-dial just waiting for the trap to spring which it did. Coincidence? Please. You can try to twist things any way you want, but the cat is out of the bag.

Obviously any kid who would do that should get arrested.
 
Old 09-21-2015, 03:10 PM
 
Location: NJ
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Then why would you use a knapsack as your example? An unaccompanied knapsack would in fact be a legitimate cause for concern. One on a kid's back would not be. When a kid shows you a project it would not normally be a source of concern particularly when he tells you what it is.
The knapsack had to get there carried by someone. If the wearer acts suspicious maybe you don't need to wait until he leaves it unattended.

Imagine, 'what is that conglomeration of wires and circuit boards you are carrying around?" Oh, that? 'that's just a clock'. 'Wow, I've never seen a clock that looked like that'.
 
Old 09-21-2015, 06:51 PM
 
Location: United States
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Here's a video of how little Ahmed made his clock.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSK9AnXrdKs
 
Old 09-21-2015, 07:00 PM
 
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Here's a video of how little Ahmed made his clock.
Uhhh no. Note that the guy in the video does not turn it on. You can do it that way but it almost never works afterwards. There is a certain finesse in technical things - even taking things apart. What you saw there was the right wing approach...hit with a hammer. Mostly it does not work.
 
Old 09-21-2015, 07:06 PM
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Here's a video of how little Ahmed made his clock.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSK9AnXrdKs
Take it to the Whouse and see what happens hint: it probably wont be an invite
 
Old 09-21-2015, 07:11 PM
 
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1. Muslim kid is the son of someone involved with an Islamic political agitation group.

2. Said Muslim kid transfers clock parts into a different case, which is no more difficult than it is to transfer a computer into a different case (probably much easier), essentially making something that looks like a bomb.

Notice that a. there is no rational reason to do so and 2. that doing so shows no particular science aptitude.

3. Scare people

4. ??

5. Profit!
 
Old 09-21-2015, 07:14 PM
 
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Here is a pretty good video summing this up.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WV2EdDGq5I
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