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Old 10-20-2014, 05:06 AM
 
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In all honesty...

Wouldn't Obama's presidency be better off, if you and the other Obama-fans didn't excuse his every lie, excuse his easy to fulfill broken promises, etc?

You, and other sycophants are why Obama is a failure. He has nothing but negligible pressure from his base to be honest, transparent, effective, etc... And so, he lies, makes excuses, breaks promises, because his base of support will look the other way and accept it.

You can't even hold him responsible for his own lies on Obamacare. Stop ruining America. We can talk Romney if he were presidents and he had legions of sheep making excuses for his every lie and failure.
The vast majority of stuff doesn't matter, is taken out of context, is out and out lies, with a small number being actual accurate complaints about him, much of the rest was written by other people, voted by congress and the senate, and the non-stop blaming of Obama is tiresome. Seriously.

Obama not perfect, but scapegoating him over and over and over misses the reality that other people vote this into law. Obamacare is a glaring example of scapegoating someone who implemented a GOP plan that was tested in a GOP state......By someone they keep trying to get to run for president again.



And yes i know I will get countless personal attacks for saying this.
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Old 10-20-2014, 05:18 AM
 
Location: Massachusetts
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You meant he plan largely based off of a conservative plan by the heritage foundation, then implemented as Romney care, and voted into law by the congress and Senate? Then relabeled Obamacare by the GOP? That plan?
Swing and a miss. Steeee-rike 1.

Romney vetoed many sections of the healthcare law we have here in Mass only to be overridden by the deep blue legislature.


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and voted into law by the congress and Senate?

FYI: the Senate is part of Congress. That obviously needs to be explained to you. Also the Obamacare trainwreck was not voted into law by Congress. It was passed through reconciliation after Obama couldn't get enough votes despite majorities in both chambers. I've seen that the term "Obamacare" was first used by a liberal blogger but why does that matter? If Obamacare is so great (some say it's Obama's signature achievement) why is there a problem attaching his name to it?
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Old 10-20-2014, 05:20 AM
 
Location: Massachusetts
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The vast majority of stuff doesn't matter, is taken out of context, is out and out lies, with a small number being actual accurate complaints about him, much of the rest was written by other people, voted by congress and the senate, and the non-stop blaming of Obama is tiresome. Seriously.

Obama not perfect, but scapegoating him over and over and over misses the reality that other people vote this into law. Obamacare is a glaring example of scapegoating someone who implemented a GOP plan that was tested in a GOP state......By someone they keep trying to get to run for president again.



And yes i know I will get countless personal attacks for saying this.

What GOP state was Obamacare tested in?
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Old 10-20-2014, 05:33 AM
 
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Originally Posted by michiganmoon View Post
In all honesty...

Wouldn't Obama's presidency be better off, if you and the other Obama-fans didn't excuse his every lie, excuse his easy to fulfill broken promises, etc?

You, and other sycophants are why Obama is a failure. He has nothing but negligible pressure from his base to be honest, transparent, effective, etc... And so, he lies, makes excuses, breaks promises, because his base of support will look the other way and accept it.

You can't even hold him responsible for his own lies on Obamacare. Stop ruining America. We can talk Romney if he were presidents and he had legions of sheep making excuses for his every lie and failure.
Obama's sycophants don't care about the lies because they believe that if you have to lie to win, it's not just acceptable, but clever and a sign of superior intellect.
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Old 10-20-2014, 05:38 AM
 
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The vast majority of stuff doesn't matter, is taken out of context, is out and out lies, with a small number being actual accurate complaints about him, much of the rest was written by other people, voted by congress and the senate, and the non-stop blaming of Obama is tiresome. Seriously.

Obama not perfect, but scapegoating him over and over and over misses the reality that other people vote this into law. Obamacare is a glaring example of scapegoating someone who implemented a GOP plan that was tested in a GOP state......By someone they keep trying to get to run for president again.
Here, let's re-write this a bit and see if you agree...

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The vast majority of stuff doesn't matter, is taken out of context, is out and out lies, with a small number being actual accurate complaints about him, much of the rest was written by other people, voted by congress and the senate, and the non-stop blaming of Bush is tiresome. Seriously.

Bush is not perfect, but scapegoating him over and over and over misses the reality that other people vote this into law. "Bush lied, people died" is a glaring example of scapegoating someone...
You'll just say that your indefensible rhetoric is true, other people's indefensible rhetoric isn't.

Except that what the original poster posted was... true.

It's not rhetoric, it's factual, and Obama's efforts at deception and his pervasive dishonesty (and that of those who work with and for him) is not just a matter of "it didn't quite work out right", it's a matter planned, calculated, and coordinated deception.

And you... Praise it.
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Old 10-20-2014, 02:40 PM
 
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The vast majority of stuff doesn't matter, is taken out of context, is out and out lies, with a small number being actual accurate complaints about him, much of the rest was written by other people, voted by congress and the senate, and the non-stop blaming of Obama is tiresome. Seriously.

Obama not perfect, but scapegoating him over and over and over misses the reality that other people vote this into law. Obamacare is a glaring example of scapegoating someone who implemented a GOP plan that was tested in a GOP state......By someone they keep trying to get to run for president again.



And yes i know I will get countless personal attacks for saying this.
Don't you even see that you are the reason why Obama is a failure?

You have to spin and deflect Obama's disingenuous statements - that I have documented with the simple "it is out of context" BS.

Obama knows he can lie and BS, because he knows you are a sheep that will excuse it away if/when you find out. He has no serious pressure from his base and that has ruined him.
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Old 10-20-2014, 02:46 PM
 
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It wouldn't matter if he were honest. Conservatives would still ***** about everything under the sun. Admit the real reason conservatives hate him.

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Old 10-20-2014, 02:47 PM
 
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Don't you even see that you are the reason why Obama is a failure?

You have to spin and deflect Obama's disingenuous statements - that I have documented with the simple "it is out of context" BS.

Obama knows he can lie and BS, because he knows you are a sheep that will excuse it away if/when you find out. He has no serious pressure from his base and that has ruined him.
So the qualification for being a "success" is a 100% honest politician?

Yea... to heck with policy or results.
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Old 10-20-2014, 04:48 PM
 
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So the qualification for being a "success" is a 100% honest politician?

Yea... to heck with policy or results.
"Results"?

If you define "results" as successfully conquering the people with deception...

I don't want your results.

And if the people elected do not conduct their job with absolute fidelity,... They're failing to do it.
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Old 10-20-2014, 04:51 PM
 
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There is no way he could be honest, he's a Democrat from Illinois. It's against the law to be a Dem and honest at the same time here.
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