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Old 12-22-2007, 01:43 PM
 
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Caught in gratuitous and illegal spying on American citizens, the Bush administration has defended its illegal activity and set the Justice (sic) Department on the trail of the person or persons who informed the New York Times of Bush’s violation of law. Note the astounding paradox: The Bush administration is caught red-handed in blatant illegality and responds by trying to arrest the patriot who exposed the administration’s illegal behavior.
Bush has actually declared it treasonous to reveal his illegal behavior! His propagandists, who masquerade as news organizations, have taken up the line: To reveal wrong-doing by the Bush administration is to give aid and comfort to the enemy.

Compared to Spygate, Watergate was a kindergarden picnic. The Bush administration’s lies, felonies, and illegalities have revealed it to be a criminal administration with a police state mentality and police state methods. Now Bush and his attorney general have gone the final step and declared Bush to be above the law. Bush aggressively mimics Hitler’s claim that defense of the realm entitles him to ignore the rule of law.

Bush’s acts of illegal domestic spying are gratuitous because there are no valid reasons for Bush to illegally spy. The Foreign Intelligence Services Act (FISA) gives Bush all the power he needs to spy on terrorist suspects. All the administration is required to do is to apply to a secret FISA court for warrants. The Act permits the administration to spy first and then apply for a warrant, should time be of the essence. The problem is that Bush has totally ignored the law and the court.

Why would President Bush ignore the law and the FISA court? It is certainly not because the court in its three decades of existence was uncooperative. According to attorney Martin Garbus (New York Observer, 12-28-05), the secret court has issued more warrants than all federal district judges combined, only once denying a warrant.

Why, then, has the administration created another scandal for itself on top of the WMD, torture, hurricane, and illegal detention scandals?
There are two possible reasons.

One reason is that the Bush administration is being used to concentrate power in the executive. The old conservative movement, which honors the separation of powers, has been swept away. Its place has been taken by a neoconservative movement that worships executive power.

The other reason is that the Bush administration could not go to the FISA secret court for warrants because it was not spying for legitimate reasons and, therefore, had to keep the court in the dark about its activities.
What might these illegitimate reasons be? Could it be that the Bush administration used the spy apparatus of the US government in order to influence the outcome of the presidential election?

Could we attribute the feebleness of the Democrats as an opposition party to information obtained through illegal spying that would subject them to blackmail?

These possible reasons for bypassing the law and the court need to be fully investigated and debated. No administration in my lifetime has given so many strong reasons to oppose and condemn it as has the Bush administration. Nixon was driven from office because of a minor burglary of no consequence in itself. Clinton was impeached because he did not want the embarrassment of publicly acknowledging that he engaged in adulterous sex acts in the Oval Office. In contrast, Bush has deceived the public and Congress in order to invade Iraq, illegally detained Americans, illegally tortured detainees, and illegally spied on Americans. Bush has upheld neither the Constitution nor the law of the land. A majority of Americans disapprove of what Bush has done; yet, the Democratic Party remains a muted spectator
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Old 12-22-2007, 02:05 PM
 
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Default I'm proud for having voting for President Bush twice.

Bush will go down through history as one of America's greatest presidents. I'm proud for having voted for President Bush twice.

The Surge has worked and now our troops can start planning to come home.
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Old 12-22-2007, 03:18 PM
 
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None of this paranoid behavior on behalf of the govt was even considered during WW2. Inagine having files on 300 million people just to catch a few. Can't happen here? Wanna bet? The US could very well just end up another junta run govt, but in civilian dress. These spymeisters don't belive in America, they are afraid of it and consider it weak, otherwise they would realize there is no reason to fear your citizens. They are waging war against the Republic and are more of a threat to the Republic than any terrorist. We are stronger than anything a terrorist can thow at us as long as we are free.

"All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent." Thomas Jefferson

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Old 12-22-2007, 03:49 PM
 
Location: Albemarle, NC
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Bush will go down through history as one of America's greatest presidents. I'm proud for having voted for President Bush twice.

The Surge has worked and now our troops can start planning to come home.
Gates told us back when the surge began that troops would have to come home in 2008 unless we extend their already extended tours. The surge is not working. Where is the political progress that was to accompany the decrease in violence? It is not happening.

Bush has lied repeatedly to America and the world under the guise of protecting us and making us safer. He has taken liberties from us. A government should be afraid of its people. The people should not be afraid of its government. Bush should be impeached. Twice. Three times if Congress had balls.
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Old 12-22-2007, 03:54 PM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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Bush will go down through history as one of America's greatest presidents. I'm proud for having voted for President Bush twice.

The Surge has worked and now our troops can start planning to come home.
So an American president can be one of the greatest presidents after saying this against his very own country? I don't think so. I don't care if he was only kidding or being grossly absent minded or whatever his problem:
http://operationoklahomafreedom.com/idiotbush.jpg (broken link)
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Old 12-22-2007, 04:25 PM
 
Location: Near Manito
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None of this paranoid behavior on behalf of the govt was even considered during WW2. Inagine having files on 300 million people just to catch a few. Can't happen here? Wanna bet? Thomas Jefferson
Yeah, terrible about Bush throwing all those Arab-Americans into detention camps and denying them citizenship rights.
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