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Old 03-06-2014, 12:50 PM
 
Location: Allendale MI
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Just noticed this year's $2.95 Trillion Dollar gain this year is more than DOUBLE the $1.17 Trillion gain reported on March 7, 2013.

Here is the same Bloomberg news report from March 2013:

Household Worth in U.S. Rises by $1.17 Trillion on Housing - Bloomberg
and the comments on the article are about the same.
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Old 03-06-2014, 12:51 PM
 
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statistics 101: the total number doesn't mean much

http://introductorystats.wordpress.c...ks-into-a-bar/



i will be impressed when median household net worth rises at a higher rate than the overall net worth
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Old 03-06-2014, 12:53 PM
 
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Wealthier than ever before. Sounds like good news, but I am sure some will twist it into bad news.

The stock market and housing market help theses figures.
it's not a matter of "twisting" anything

the majority of americans own very little stock, so rising stock markets have a negligible impact on their finances.
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Old 03-06-2014, 01:10 PM
 
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Yes...and I wonder who got the vast majority of that almost 3 trillion? Hmmmmm?

thats what? 9.2K per person? In one quarter. Hmmmmm
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Old 03-06-2014, 01:13 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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it's not a matter of "twisting" anything

the majority of americans own very little stock, so rising stock markets have a negligible impact on their finances.
According to Pew Research in Nov 2013, 52% of Americans own stock:

Dow soars, but only about half of Americans will benefit | Pew Research Center

So a good percentage of Americans do hold stock, either directly or indirectly.

However, the Bloomberg article in my OP is talking about household wealth in general, which also includes home values.

And household wealth rising is a good thing, no matter how you view it.

This number is moving in the RIGHT direction!
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Old 03-06-2014, 01:14 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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Why are households and non-profits grouped together?
To skew the results.

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Why does this even matter?
Truth always matters.

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Wealthier than ever before. Sounds like good news, but I am sure some will twist it into bad news.
Yeah, because borrowing against the equity in one's homes and having a 2nd or 3rd mortgage has no impact on foreclosures.

Right?

Do you understand that if one defaults on the 3rd mortgage or the 2nd or an HELOC, that is a default, right?

Do you understand that pursuant to federal banking regulations, at 120 days late the bank is required by law to foreclose?

You understand the banks have no choice in this matter, right?

And you understand that it has been that way for decades and decades, right?

So....everyone borrow against the equity in their home then when Obamacare sends you back into a recession, you can have massive foreclosures and another housing bubble bust.

Will you blame Bush for the ACA and your recession, too?


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Just noticed this year's $2.95 Trillion Dollar gain this year is more than DOUBLE the $1.17 Trillion gain reported on March 7, 2013.
Good....because they'll need to borrow against their equity to pay the Obamacare deductibles.

And just think.....30 seconds ago you were all crying about "Income Inequality"....


Mircea
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Old 03-06-2014, 01:14 PM
 
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So...Under Obama, the rich are getting richer?!?!?! How does that make you Lefties feel? I thought you HATED that with a passion?
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Old 03-06-2014, 01:38 PM
 
Location: Florida
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I'm not twisting this into bad news so much as making it clearer that these figures do not affect the average person. It's another case of the rich getting richer being portrayed as benefiting everyone.
Strive to be more than average. This is the land of opportunity, and those people who want to be more than average are rewarded. Having said that, even average people in US have 401Ks and houses, so they have also benefitted.
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Old 03-06-2014, 01:40 PM
 
Location: Florida
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it's not a matter of "twisting" anything

the majority of americans own very little stock, so rising stock markets have a negligible impact on their finances.
Majority of US households own either stock or real estate.
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Old 03-06-2014, 01:43 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Wealthier than ever before. Sounds like good news, but I am sure some will twist it into bad news.

The stock market and housing market help theses figures.
Yes, and most of the benefit from the stock market goes to the wealthy.

Thanks Obama for continuing to increase inequality!
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