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Old 03-06-2014, 01:07 PM
 
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How would you know by looking at them?
The dialect is one. You could tell by the mannerisms that they grew up in households you wouldn't associate with the typical black family.
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Old 03-06-2014, 01:07 PM
 
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so keep the white privilege network. keep that advantage. dont let other kids come in and have access to that.
People can break in but it's difficult. Families are going to give their kids every advantage possible. Now throw in assortative mating into the mix and well good luck with that.
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Old 03-06-2014, 01:10 PM
 
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The fallacy here is that you don't know what advantage is being given to legacy admits. Just because someone's dad went to Yale doesn't mean they are also not qualified to enter into Yale on their own merits.

When you consider that intelligence is on some level tied to genetics it makes perfect sense. Jonathan Martin, the Black football player who was "bullied", comes from a family that is now into its 4th generation at Harvard. He went to Stanford.
Bush got a 1200 on his SAT. Many state schools would not even admit him. George Bush was a benefactor of affirmative action. Again, white conservative males will never admit this, but they will attack the black student who got the same score attending Yale.
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Old 03-06-2014, 01:12 PM
 
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Bush got a 1200 on his SAT. Many state schools would not even admit him. George Bush was a benefactor of affirmative action. Again, white conservative males will never admit this, but they will attack the black student who got the same score attending Yale.
This is not AA. It is "connection".

Obama's daughters will have that connection too.
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Old 03-06-2014, 01:13 PM
 
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People can break in but it's difficult. Families are going to give their kids every advantage possible. Now throw in assortative mating into the mix and well good luck with that.
these same whites will say that white privilege is non-existant though, yet they fight to defend white privilege for legacy white males just for those connections. thats the definition of white privilege.

caltech and MIT do not factor in legacies. there student bodies are far more diverse then these ritz schools where these legacy whites get in.
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Old 03-06-2014, 01:17 PM
 
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This is not AA. It is "connection".

Obama's daughters will have that connection too.
That's white people talk for AA(connection).

Bush would not have gotten into Yale if he was not the son of HW, that is affirmative action. Getting a benefit and taking advantage of it.

No different then the poor black kid with a subpar score getting into Yale.

Yet, white conservative males will say that the black kid is wasting a spot, yet somehow Bush was not taking a spot and deserved to be there.
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Old 03-06-2014, 01:22 PM
 
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Yes, that's what's ironic. These students don't represent the typical demographic of Black America. None of them seem to have come from under privileged backgrounds.
Just wanted to say it is interesting that you feel in order to have a true representation of black America one has to be underprivileged.

Most black people in America today are not poor. I wonder in 6 years when my son goes to college if people will think him the child of Africans instead of black Americans. Lol. He is not underprivileged at all. Neither were the majority of my cousins and over half of us have degrees.

Fwiw, I went to an HBCU. The majority of the people I knew we're black Americans from middle and upper income homes. One of my good friends is from one of the richest black families in the country and she has what she thinks is a "ghetto" name to boot. She has never been underprivileged. My cousin went to an HBCU as well and experienced the same. Many of our classmates were legacy students and their families are very well off and they are not African or west Indian either.

Back Americans have been going to the ivies for decades. And practically all black people in this country are multiracial so I don't get that comment from EdwardA either in regards to trying to act like these students are not really black Americans.

It is interesting how people really don't consider the things they are speaking of and how easily you can make any negative connotation fit the black narrative, yet easily ignore the positive portions of being black as being integral to the "black American experience."
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Old 03-06-2014, 01:28 PM
 
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Just wanted to say it is interesting that you feel in order to have a true representation of black America one has to be underprivileged.

Most black people in America today are not poor. I wonder in 6 years when my son goes to college if people will think him the child of Africans instead of black Americans. Lol. He is not underprivileged at all. Neither were the majority of my cousins and over half of us have degrees.

Fwiw, I went to an HBCU. The majority of the people I knew we're black Americans from middle and upper income homes. One of my good friends is from one of the richest black families in the country and she has what she thinks is a "ghetto" name to boot. She has never been underprivileged. My cousin went to an HBCU as well and experienced the same. Many of our classmates were legacy students and their families are very well off and they are not African or west Indian either.

Back Americans have been going to the ivies for decades. And practically all black people in this country are multiracial so I don't get that comment from EdwardA either in regards to trying to act like these students are not really black Americans.

It is interesting how people really don't consider the things they are speaking of and how easily you can make any negative connotation fit the black narrative, yet easily ignore the positive portions of being black as being integral to the "black American experience."
Your comment defeats the purpose of Affirmative Action.
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Old 03-06-2014, 01:32 PM
 
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Just wanted to say it is interesting that you feel in order to have a true representation of black America one has to be underprivileged.

Most black people in America today are not poor. I wonder in 6 years when my son goes to college if people will think him the child of Africans instead of black Americans. Lol. He is not underprivileged at all. Neither were the majority of my cousins and over half of us have degrees.

Fwiw, I went to an HBCU. The majority of the people I knew we're black Americans from middle and upper income homes. One of my good friends is from one of the richest black families in the country and she has what she thinks is a "ghetto" name to boot. She has never been underprivileged. My cousin went to an HBCU as well and experienced the same. Many of our classmates were legacy students and their families are very well off and they are not African or west Indian either.

Back Americans have been going to the ivies for decades. And practically all black people in this country are multiracial so I don't get that comment from EdwardA either in regards to trying to act like these students are not really black Americans.

It is interesting how people really don't consider the things they are speaking of and how easily you can make any negative connotation fit the black narrative, yet easily ignore the positive portions of being black as being integral to the "black American experience."

i had posted a thread about white males calling a black man a deadbeat when he tooks pics of him caring for his kids.

1. they were angered because he had a white wife.
2. it doesnt confirm to the white conservative male view of an average black american, who in there mind is a gun toting thug.


even knowledgeiskey has said that he thought the average black family did not have proper dialect.
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Old 03-06-2014, 01:32 PM
 
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Bush got a 1200 on his SAT. Many state schools would not even admit him. George Bush was a benefactor of affirmative action. Again, white conservative males will never admit this, but they will attack the black student who got the same score attending Yale.
Twelve hundred in the old SAT isn't so bad.
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