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Old 12-10-2013, 08:01 PM
 
Location: Montreal, Quebec
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Don't confuse them with real facts and real scientists!
Now they'll just go and start another thread, spewing their same BS and invoking Gore, hoping you won't see it.
They'll clap each other on the back and act smug about how right they are and how scientists are liars.

 
Old 12-10-2013, 08:11 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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Originally Posted by weltschmerz View Post
Don't confuse them with real facts and real scientists!
Now they'll just go and start another thread, spewing their same BS and invoking Gore, hoping you won't see it.
They'll clap each other on the back and act smug about how right they are and how scientists are liars.
What else can they do? They have no evidence, no facts and nothing at all to support their denial of what is obvious to anyone with a brain, but they all pretend to be smarter than the many thousands of degree holding scientists who are actually doing the research....Pretty laughable and foolish I would say....They even deny solid recorded data, which is exposing them as idiots of the first degree.
 
Old 12-10-2013, 08:18 PM
 
Location: Calgary, AB
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You can pretty much replace 'global warming' with 'moon landing' in a given post and not skip a beat.
 
Old 12-10-2013, 08:20 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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NASA | Ask a Climate Scientist: Global Warming Pause? - YouTube
 
Old 12-10-2013, 08:30 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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Global Warming Pause? - YouTube[/url]
Hmmm.... so you get your scientific facts from Youtube? I guess that's OK for the Flat Earth Society lemmings.
 
Old 12-10-2013, 08:31 PM
 
Location: Calgary, AB
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97% of 1000? 97% of 3000?
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A survey of over 12,000 peer-reviewed climate science papers by our citizen science team at Skeptical Science has found a 97% consensus in the peer-reviewed literature that humans are causing global warming.
And the abstract of the survey:

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Abstract




We analyze the evolution of the scientific consensus on anthropogenic global warming (AGW) in the peer-reviewed scientific literature, examining 11 944 climate abstracts from 1991–2011 matching the topics 'global climate change' or 'global warming'. We find that 66.4% of abstracts expressed no position on AGW, 32.6% endorsed AGW, 0.7% rejected AGW and 0.3% were uncertain about the cause of global warming. Among abstracts expressing a position on AGW, 97.1% endorsed the consensus position that humans are causing global warming. In a second phase of this study, we invited authors to rate their own papers. Compared to abstract ratings, a smaller percentage of self-rated papers expressed no position on AGW (35.5%). Among self-rated papers expressing a position on AGW, 97.2% endorsed the consensus. For both abstract ratings and authors' self-ratings, the percentage of endorsements among papers expressing a position on AGW marginally increased over time. Our analysis indicates that the number of papers rejecting the consensus on AGW is a vanishingly small proportion of the published research.
There you have it. A survey of published works expressing an opinion on the matter of anthropogenic climate change reveals the vast majority endorse it. And 12000 papers is a lot.
 
Old 12-10-2013, 08:35 PM
 
Location: Palo Alto
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What else can they do? They have no evidence, no facts and nothing at all to support their denial of what is obvious to anyone with a brain, but they all pretend to be smarter than the many thousands of degree holding scientists who are actually doing the research....Pretty laughable and foolish I would say....They even deny solid recorded data, which is exposing them as idiots of the first degree.
How old is the oldest "solid recorded data"?

Not the data that is extrapolated or interpolated or modeled. But how much real data do we have on comparative instruments in a scientific setting?

Is that amount of data sufficient to state scientifically that the warming over the past 10,000+ years is definitively linked to man?
 
Old 12-10-2013, 08:53 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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Default Climate Change Hoax

Well, we had a warm summer here in the United States, and that brought some of the climate change alarmists out again. Looks like it’s time for another rebuttal!

John Coleman, the founder of The WeatherChannel, and various other critics have called the theory that human use of carbon-based fossil fuels will lead to catastrophic global warming or climate change a “hoax.” It is, but it’s more than that, it’s criminal. Here are some of the scientific questions at the core
of this issue: Is the climate changing? Of course. The climate always has changed and always will.
Is the earth getting warmer? We should hope so for at least two reasons: First, the world emerged from
the Little Ice Age in the 19th century, so it would be worrisome if it weren’t getting warmer. Second, all
the history indicates that humans thrive more during warmer periods than colder ones. It is likely,
though, that earth has warmed less than many official temperature records indicate for a variety of
reasons, including: few long-term records from either the southern hemisphere or the 71 percent of
the planet that is covered by water; distortions from the urban heat-island effect and other faulty siting

See who's up and who's down » (e.g., temperature sensors next to asphalt parking
lots, etc.; the decline in weather station reports from Siberia after the fall of the Soviet government; the
arbitrarily ceasing to include measurements from northern latitudes and high elevations, etc.) The
most accurate measures of temperature come from satellites. Since the start of these measurements in
1979, they show minor fluctuations and insignificant net change in global temperature.
Is the earth getting dangerously warm? Probably not, since the earth was warmer than it is now in
7000 of the last 10,000 years.
By the way, does anybody know what the “right” amount of global
heat is? Are we humans causing the warm

Climate Change: 'Hoax' Or Crime Of The Century? - Forbes
 
Old 12-10-2013, 08:58 PM
 
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the alarmists are going to poo poo these claims saying that its a forbes article and not scientific, and that johncoleman is just an executive that knows accounting but not science.
 
Old 12-10-2013, 08:59 PM
 
Location: Montreal, Quebec
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See, what did I tell you, sanspeur?
One just popped up, called the Climate Change Hoax.

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