Desperate Democrats STILL blaming Republicans for govt shutdown, after not passing any budgets for four years!

[Winter_Sucks]

Originally Posted by volosong

It's a contest?

No, it's a debate.

And you lost.

Get over it.

[Harrier]

3/7 of "liberal" is "lie".

Of course the Democrats will deny that they were responsible for the shutdown - it is just another lie and lying come a naturally to them as breathing oxygen.

[Frozenyo]

[skoro]

Originally Posted by Little-Acorn

The big-spending Democrats are still trying to avoid blame for the recent government shutdown - a shutdown that would have been avoided if they had simply done their duty as required by the Constitution, and passed a budget to negotiate and reconcile with the Republicans, as has been done by virtually every Congress since George Washington's time.

But for the past four years, we have seen the astonishing spectacle of a party with a majority in the Senate, unable to pass its own budget. Even when the President (of their own party) submitted one, the Democrats unanimously voted it down!

The Republican majority in the House, in the meantime, has passed budgets like clockwork and sent them to the Senate to begin the usual negotiation process... only to see the Democrats declare them "DOA" and refuse to even read them, much less negotiate on points they didn't like. They treated the Continuing Resolutions sent by the House, the same way. No negotiations, no reading, "My way or the highway". And to no one's surprise, the government ran out of money and shut down.

And after flatly refusing any cooperation, those same Democrats then announced it it was Republicans who were "holding a gun to our heads" as shutdown neared, "Holding the government hostage" as Democrats refused to even negotiate.

Most hilariously, after four years of refusing to pass budgets or even negotiate, these Democrats announced it was the Republicans who were "refusing to negotiate during the regular order of Congressional business".

Democrats never negotiated even when "regular order" was happening. They never even passed a budget for four years, while Republicans in the House passed budgets regularly, every time, on schedule, and sent them to the Senate for normal negotiations and reconciliation... conforming to the "normal order" of Congressional business. And now the Democrats are trying to blame Republicans for the lack of negotiations for those four years???

What these people lack in memory and integrity, they more than make up for in sheer balls.

When George Orwell described the "doublethink" that an intransigent government engaged in, his only mistake was that he didn't extend it to the triplethink and quadruplethink our Democrats of today, are engaging in to avoid acknowledging the true cause of the recent shutdown.

That's the way it works; blame falls on those responsible for the foul-ups.

In this case, the teapublicans.

[Winter_Sucks]

Originally Posted by NVplumber

And THAT'S what it's really all about, at the end, isn't it. Who "won". Rah rah, gooooo team go!!! I wonder how many people are just looking at that, instead of what was at stake. Or even cared to begin with. It's all just about winning tbe game. Being able to have bragging rights and cocka doodle doo from the rooftop. More like a sporting event than the future of our country.

OK Dems, you "won". When you get done with your hoo rahing and butt slapping, there's a mess to clean up. Providing your not to busy. I realize tbat the problems with the ACA and the debt are all the fault of the losing team here, but, the "winners" get to lead the way. We the People are waiting. Enthtalled and enraptured by your light of ethereal truth. So show us whatcha got. We should expect nothing but unicorns and glitter, now that Obama and the flying monkeys like Reid and Pelosi have the reins. Right?!

No, it's about ending a government shutdown and making sure the country didn't default. Republicans lost that debate. The Democrats have been trying to conference the House and Senate budgets for six months. Now Republicans will actually have to go on record and make tough choices about how to reduce the deficit.

Bottom line, the GOP will have to choose between reducing the deficit and their ideology.

[T-310]

Desperate Democrats STILL blaming Republicans for govt shutdown, after not passing any budgets for four years!

Try 6 years and Obama doesn't want a budget. He doesn't want any pesky laws to get in the way of how much money he wants to spend.

[texdav]

Fact is both the administration and congress with both parties have just failed to address the issue with is the unsustainability of continuing to add 1.3 trillion to deficit a year for some years now under two presidents. Its just the path that Greece took and does have a end which isn't pretty when it comes.This latest is just the same battle on getting started on the path to sustainable spending;nothing more. The can was just kicked again. It will take the grand bargain both talk about but do nothing about. In January automatic cuts start from the sequester both agreed to.

[NVplumber]

Originally Posted by carterstamp

Nope, wrong again.

Anyone who denies the GOPs complicity in this mess is delusional, at best, and a liar at worst.

And idiocy part 2 starts in 2014, expect more of the same.

I'm not denying anyones complicity, and can care less about the Republicans reputation. If they had pulled this out, the same thing would be happening. Nothing but a lot of backslapping. It was all just a weenie gazing contest, from both ends. But, the Dems got the bragging rights, so, lets see it. Time to lead. We follow, whither thou goest....

[NVplumber]

Here ya go carterstamp. Its stuff lime this I am talking about. Crowing and gloating...over what? I really had no dog in this fight. Not cheering one side or the other. Have my opinions, but was realy indifferent to the outcome of this peeing match. Now qe all get to see the nose rubbing and angry rhetoric. Yay...see post #33

[volosong]

Originally Posted by Winter_Sucks

No, it's a debate.

And you lost.

Get over it.

Silly bunny. I didn't lose. And, I didn't win either. I haven't been registered with any political party for about four years now, (and have been faithfully voting since 1970).