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Old 06-20-2013, 07:41 AM
 
Location: My beloved Bluegrass
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Could you please provide SCOTUS citations where they've upheld such?
They haven't addressed it one way or another. There isn't some deep-pocketed legal lobby out there to fund protests over a 20+ year-old married to a 14 year-old going to jail.

 
Old 06-20-2013, 07:42 AM
 
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Could you please provide SCOTUS citations where they've upheld such?
I would also like to know. We had a big discussion about this on another site yesterday. I'd be very interested to learn about the examples in which marriages in one state were not "recognized" by another.
 
Old 06-20-2013, 07:48 AM
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Location: Florida
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They haven't addressed it one way or another.
So effectively, it is a blank slate. There have always been trivial cases where the government allows some small amount of local corruption to go on unremediated. That's probably never going to change. It doesn't establish precedent.
 
Old 06-20-2013, 07:56 AM
 
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I would also like to know. We had a big discussion about this on another site yesterday. I'd be very interested to learn about the examples in which marriages in one state were not "recognized" by another.
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/08/30/na...anted=all&_r=0This happens but doesn't generally make the news. Kentucky is one of the states that gets out-of-staters for young marriages.
 
Old 06-20-2013, 08:01 AM
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This is one example that made the news: http://www.nytimes.com/2005/08/30/na...anted=all&_r=0
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FALLS CITY, Neb., Aug. 29 - On Sunday evening, Matthew Koso tipped three ounces of formula into his 5-day-old daughter's mouth, then hoisted her atop his shoulder in hope of a burp. On Tuesday morning, he is scheduled to be arraigned on charges for which the newborn is the state's prime piece of evidence.

Matthew Koso, 22; his wife Crystal, 14; and their daughter, Samara. Mr. Koso faces an arraignment Tuesday on a charge of statutory rape.

Mr. Koso is 22. The baby's mother, Crystal, is 14. He is charged with statutory rape, even though they were wed with their parents' blessing in May, crossing into Kansas because their own state prohibits marriages of people under 17.
Do the math: In August, the child is five days old. The couple got married in May. The child isn't premature.
 
Old 06-20-2013, 08:08 AM
 
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Do the math: In August, the child is five days old. The couple got married in May. The child isn't premature.
It is all kinds of wrong. He had no business having sex with her, but traditionally marriage protected the male from statutory rape charges - but that debate is for another thread. I personally have no issue with SSM, but I guarantee you there are states that will fight reciprocity on it.
 
Old 06-20-2013, 08:09 AM
 
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http://www.nytimes.com/2005/08/30/na...anted=all&_r=0This happens but doesn't generally make the news. Kentucky is one of the states that gets out-of-staters for young marriages.
That case is about statutory rape, and specifically says
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In Nebraska, as in many other states, intercourse between someone who is 19 and someone younger than 16 is classified as statutory rape. It is illegal here even if the couple is married at the time.
It doesn't say that the state does not recognize their marriage.
 
Old 06-20-2013, 08:09 AM
bUU
 
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It is all kinds of wrong. He had no business having sex with her, but traditionally marriage protected the male from statutory rape charges
My point was: They were not married.

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It doesn't say that the state does not recognize their marriage.
I don't even think we know if it actually is illegal, if the couple is married. This case doesn't really shine a light on that (even though the NY Times reporter said it did) because the couple wasn't married. However, it could very well be that the law prohibits sex between a married couple, if one of the couple is underage. It would be worth fact-checking that.
 
Old 06-20-2013, 08:16 AM
 
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Guys, this isn't about statutory rape. This topic is about Prop 8 and DOMA. Topic is veering off course
 
Old 06-20-2013, 08:16 AM
 
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No decision on DOMA or prop 8 today.
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