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People so often seem to want to equate the beliefs of others with whatever group it is that they want to attack valid or not.
The facts are Ron Paul warned us over and over again about the coming housing crash. He warned us over and over how the government would abuse the Patriot Act. People called him all sorts of things but yet, he never bent with the winds.
Now that he has been proven right again people have to try and make things up because they simply can not bring themselves to admit he was right.
In a perfect world, it is absolutely your responsibility to make sure you aren't entering into a fraudulent contract. When did anyone claim that fraud is a separate issue? In a true free market a few people WILL be suckered into the fraudulent company, but subsequent people will stay away and that company will eventually die out.
It is absolutely not the responsibility of the government to protect the individual. It should be the responsibility of the government to protect the individual's freedom to protect him/herself.
Destroyed your own argument and exposed the reason why libertarian ideology wont work in practice, we dotn live in a perfect world.
why should the government be involved as the third party. according to libertarian talking points, everything is best solved to the people, why should the government step in? They only get in the way, and screw things up.
For the same reason that "the government" should have the authority to step in if someone steals my wallet. (But in this case, Libertarians would also support the right to carry a weapon, in order to protect, if need be, the right to property should "the government" not be able to provide immediate support).
Libertarians aren't anarchists; they don't want the "the government" to have no role in human affairs, but just a very limited, and clearly circumscribed role.
And I do think that many Libertarians would prefer a "buyer beware" approach to most economic human interactions, rather than relying on "the government" to scrutinize or regulate every endeavor. But as I said, true fraud (not providing an agreed upon good or service) is the same as theft, and it requires a neutral third party to enforce the terms of the contract.
Most people who wanted to make money in a truly free marketplace would 1) Find a good or service that people want, and 2) Do their best to provide said good/service at a competitive price. Only a minority would rely on theft or fraud, and that minority would be subject to penalties in a Libertarian society, just as they are in our present society.
But drug dealers, lemonade-stand operators, sellers of giant sodas, prostitutes, street-food vendors and the like, would not be subject to penalties (or government taxes or fees), provided they hadn't defrauded or physically coerced customers.
People so often seem to want to equate the beliefs of others with whatever group it is that they want to attack valid or not.
The facts are Ron Paul warned us over and over again about the coming housing crash. He warned us over and over how the government would abuse the Patriot Act. People called him all sorts of things but yet, he never bent with the winds.
Now that he has been proven right again people have to try and make things up because they simply can not bring themselves to admit he was right.
Ron Paul's warnings came to fruition, yet people STILL insist he is a nutcase! As I've said, the truth hurts! The fact that the masses have become so dumbed down, and blindly follow everything without question...well... maybe they are spraying us, or putting something in the damn water!!!
Government tells us what to wear, what to eat, what to believe.
They monitor our calls and internet data.
They check us while traveling for one thing or another.
They can stop us if we act suspicious.
They have posters all over America telling us to "See something, Say something"
They are like control freaks..never happy with what they have and always reaching for the next level.
And they tell you if you've been wronged (even by your own hand) then come to them and they will fix it.
Ron Paul's warnings came to fruition, yet people STILL insist he is a nutcase! As I've said, the truth hurts! The fact that the masses have become so dumbed down, and blindly follow everything without question...well... maybe they are spraying us, or putting something in the damn water!!!
what's that saying, "even a broken clock is right twice a day ".
Ron Paul like Glenn Beck makes 1,000 predictions, just because the 5 right guesses get publicized does not negate the fact that there are still 995 wrong ones.
Why is it the job of the government to protect people from fraud? If you believe that the free-market solves any issue that government might try to intervene, why is fraud separated from that? If I sucker you into a contract, wasn't it your responsibility to know what you were signing in the first place?
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Originally Posted by nighttrain55
This is what I don't understand, libertarians get upset whenever government tries to regulate an industry, so why is regulating contracts ok, but nothing else?
The requisite elements that must be established to demonstrate the formation of a legally binding contract are (1) offer; (2) acceptance; (3) consideration; (4) mutuality of obligation; (5) competency and capacity; and, in certain circumstances, (6) a written instrument.
what's that saying, "even a broken clock is right twice a day ".
Ron Paul like Glenn Beck makes 1,000 predictions, just because the 5 right guesses get publicized does not negate the fact that there are still 995 wrong ones.
Really now? So the housing market didn't crash, as predicted? Jobs aren't continuing to go overseas as our middle class dwindles further, and our manufacturing base further erodes? Our foreign policy wasn't the cause for so much hatred toward the US, and it's endless meddling in the Middle East, and continued nation building? Do you agree with the government's abuse of the Patriot Act, and invading the privacy of our citizens under the guise of catching terrorists? Call me, crazy, but those are quite serious issues that have caused great harm to this nation's economy, and far more important than the silly issues that they use to keep us divided, like gay marriage, abortion, and pitting people against each other because of skin color!!!! But hey, don't let me stop you from continuing to drink that partisan kool aide.
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As I've said, the truth hurts! The fact that the masses have become so dumbed down, and blindly follow everything without question...well... maybe they are spraying us, or putting something in the damn water!!!
