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Old 05-27-2013, 09:19 PM
 
Location: The Land of Reason
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Best laugh I've have all day.
Why do you believe that he can oppose his will on everyone in government?
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Old 05-27-2013, 09:21 PM
 
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Since when do two wrongs make it right.....why is it you and others didn't like Bush's tactics and Obama is golden. Shouldn't we the people call BS when either side does it?
No arguement from me. It is just that when obama does what bush did the republicans jump right on it totally ignoring the fact that it happened before.
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Old 05-27-2013, 09:48 PM
 
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No arguement from me. It is just that when obama does what bush did the republicans jump right on it totally ignoring the fact that it happened before.
Seems most of us are starting to see that some of President Bush's policies weren't all on the up and up......we have also got so much more information at our hands than even the first term of President Bush. I think it's time to start holding our leaders and those under them responsible for screwing up, they have real good ways of using others to fall on the sword for them.........this is not good!
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Old 05-27-2013, 09:51 PM
 
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Seriously, why? Outside of the fact that the IRS was unfairly targeting Tea Party groups and Tea Party groups generally oppose Obama, there doesn't appear to be any linkage between the two. If there is, hopefully it's discovered, but there really isn't a reason to believe so.

But it's more fun when everything is Obama's fault, right?
Well helllooooo -- you cannot exactly blame Bush for this one.

Of course Obama is behind it. Obama is the chief executive, he is responsible for the carrying out of all federal law, he's the leader, he wanted them to shut down all dissenting voices.
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Old 05-27-2013, 09:52 PM
 
Location: None of your business
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No arguement from me. It is just that when obama does what bush did the republicans jump right on it totally ignoring the fact that it happened before.
yep, anytime someone says anything about Obama they say.. well Bush did it.
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Old 05-27-2013, 09:59 PM
 
Location: My little patch of Earth
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Why do you believe that he can oppose his will on everyone in government?
Second best laugh I've had all day.

He 'imposes' his will indirectly. He is well known for having 'special' meetings offsite so the details do not have to be logged.

Valerie Jarrett is the POTUS. She has one of his testicles in her hand. What Valerie wants, Valerie gets.

Study up on her. You'll see who is really in control in 'our house'.
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Old 05-27-2013, 10:02 PM
 
Location: My beloved Bluegrass
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Why do you believe that he can oppose his will on everyone in government?
Obamacare
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Old 05-27-2013, 10:10 PM
 
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Seriously, why? Outside of the fact that the IRS was unfairly targeting Tea Party groups and Tea Party groups generally oppose Obama, there doesn't appear to be any linkage between the two. If there is, hopefully it's discovered, but there really isn't a reason to believe so.

But it's more fun when everything is Obama's fault, right?

For one thing, the head of the IRS employee union (didn't know this existed) visited the White House the day before the targeting started.

Coincidence?
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Old 05-27-2013, 10:29 PM
 
Location: None of your business
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Obama Held First Meeting After the 2012 election was with union leader Trupka. Unions helped get Obama in and Obama owes them big time.

The NTEU is the 150,000 member union that represents IRS employees along with 30 other separate government agencies. Kelley herself is a 14-year IRS veteran agent. The union’s PAC endorsed Obama in both 2008 and 2012, and gave hundreds of thousands of dollars in the 2010 and 2012 election cycles to anti-Tea Party candidates.

Obama is obliged politically and practically to protect unionized government workers. He owes them and they may hold the key to insulating his administration from the worst of the scandal. Why is it that Lerner made a speech that she was innocent and then took the 5th. If she is innocent then who is she protecting?

We as a nation should ask questions because behind closed doors many things can be said that have very dangerous impacts upon our national standings.

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Old 05-27-2013, 10:31 PM
 
Location: Flippin AR
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He was elected to RUN the government--not to go on vacation, go to golfing, not to have expensive campaign fund-raising dinners.

If he couldn't do the job, he should have resigned immediately.
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