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Old 04-26-2013, 07:05 PM
 
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I'm a liberal and I never held Bush Responsible for 9/11.
I don't think I've ever encountered anyone - left or right - who was both sane and held Geo. II responsible for 9/11.

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another fail of a thread.
Another stupid nonsensical thing the OP made up.
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Old 04-26-2013, 07:06 PM
 
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I knew where this thread was going to go..

Bush responsible, Obama didnt know..

First off, Bush waswas was warned almost daily that there were going to be attacks that never came. There was no way to know what ones were real and what ones werent, just like Clinton didnt know.

As for Obama, if you are going to then blame that Bush should have known what ones were real and what ones werent, then clearly you should at least be honest and admit that Obama should have known about attacks that clearly he didnt, especially given that the FBI was also warned about these bombers.

The truth of course is that either one knowing would have been ridiculous, but hey, dont stop being hypocrites..
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Old 04-26-2013, 07:10 PM
 
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I posted this in another thread, but it applies here so I'll repost it.

9/11 was a colossal failure of government. We knew an attack was planned, we knew what some of the targets were, we knew roughly when the attack was going to take place, we had policies to deal with hijackings, those policies were not followed, when Bush was informed of the attack he finished reading to children. --- Maybe he needed an alibi.

Was there an equivalent failure under Obama? For the life of me I don't know why shootings are being counted as terrorism.
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Old 04-26-2013, 07:12 PM
 
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I posted this in another thread, but it applies here so I'll repost it.

9/11 was a colossal failure of government. We knew an attack was planned, we knew what some of the targets were, we knew roughly when the attack was going to take place, we had policies to deal with hijackings, those policies were not followed, when Bush was informed of the attack he finished reading to children. --- Maybe he needed an alibi.
Actually we knew none of that.. but carry on with your conspiracy crap
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Was there an equivalent failure under Obama? For the life of me I don't know why shootings are being counted as terrorism.
You're probably the only person on earth that doesnt know there was a bombing..
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Old 04-26-2013, 07:36 PM
 
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Are you rejecting that "irrational and irresponsible" approach, or embracing it?

If it's "irrational and irresponsible" to blame Bush for 9/11, then it's also "irrational and irresponsible" to blame Obama for 4/15.

Oh, and also:

Death toll on 4/15: 4.

Death toll on 9/11: 2,977.

I know you'll argue that the death toll doesn't matter -- which is an odd argument coming from someone who is, presumably, "pro-life."
I see you're yet another liberal who ties the "score" to the number of dead people. I bet the good people of Boston would appreciate your righteous indignation for their measely 4 dead people. Barack Obama dropped the ball......4 dead people......meh who cares !

More evidence that liberalism and liberals are the scum of the Earth. A disgusting, vile, and rotten ideology to the very core.
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Old 04-26-2013, 07:42 PM
 
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I don't think I've ever encountered anyone - left or right - who was both sane and held Geo. II responsible for 9/11.



Another stupid nonsensical thing the OP made up.
Just because you can't keep up doesn't mean i'm wrong.

I refuse to Google the proof for you. I'll let you remain ignorant.
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Old 04-26-2013, 07:44 PM
 
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How about this logic instead of divide and conquer:
Your Dems and Repubs are running around with the same controllers.
They have the same people backing their actions.

When are people going to finally wake up this this? Unless, well, ignorance is bliss!

Okay Left did it no wait...Right did it!!!!!
Bush did it!!! Obama did it!!!
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Old 04-26-2013, 07:48 PM
 
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How about this logic instead of divide and conquer:
Your Dems and Repubs are running around with the same controllers.
They have the same people backing their actions.

When are people going to finally wake up this this? Unless, well, ignorance is bliss!

Okay Left did it no wait...Right did it!!!!!
Bush did it!!! Obama did it!!!
Why is it that when it's time to Blame Bush, the lefty's circle the wagons and join in on the kumbayah. But when it's time to Blame Obama, the same idiots come forth and proclaim that the "left and right are the same?" Why is it the fools can't bring themselves to blame the Messiah Obama forthrightly?

Fundamental disingenuousness is the cornerstone of liberal ideology. And don't you forget that either.
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Old 04-26-2013, 07:56 PM
 
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I never blamed Bush for 9/11, and I don't blame Obama for Boston.

That said, Obama needs roughly 1000 more Bostons before anybody could pretend any real equivalence anyway.
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Old 04-26-2013, 08:01 PM
 
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Actually we knew none of that.. but carry on with your conspiracy crap

You're probably the only person on earth that doesnt know there was a bombing..
You don't say...
BIN LADIN DETERMINED TO STRIKE IN US
Although Bin Ladin has not succeeded, his attacks against the US Embassies in Kenya and Tanzania in 1998 demonstrate that he prepares operations years in advance and Is not deterred by setbacks. Bin Ladin associates surveilled our Embassies in Nairobi and Dar es Salaam as early as 1993, and some members of the Nairobi cell planning the bombings were arrested and deported in 1997.

Al-qai'da members - some who are US citizens - have resided in or traveled to the US for years, and the group apparently maintains a support structure that could aid attacks. Two al-Qa'ida members found guilty in the conspiracy to bomb our Embassies in East Africa were US citizens, and a senior EIJ member lived in California in the mid 1990's.

Nevertheless, FBI information since that time indicates patterns of suspicious activity in this country consistent with preparations for hijackings or other types of aNacks, including recent surveillance of federal buildings in New
York

http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/...db8-6-2001.pdf
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2...s.html?hp&_r=0
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