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Old 05-07-2013, 09:26 AM
 
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By what measures are you using to determine that the "economy is improving" and for who?
It sounds good to say the economy is improving because they so desperately want to believe he is a good president even when there is no supporting evidence.

Results? They don't care about the actual results. That is why they call them the party of low expectations.

 
Old 05-07-2013, 09:27 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Take a little time and look up what she actually said, you will look less foolish.
I don't have to. Intelligence agencies and press outside the US had determined it was a terrorist attack.

Maybe our government should have taken their information to heart.

Both Carney and Rice had to tap dance and backtrack and ease their way from "movie outrage" to "terrorist attack". That's what it comes down to.
 
Old 05-07-2013, 09:27 AM
 
Location: Too far from home.
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Well, like I've said in other threads let's just have the investigation/testimony on CSPAN including ALL involved parties and let the public decide for themselves.
Why not? What are they afraid of?
Decide for themselves?? If you look at this thread people have already decided, and people will remain in denial and refuse to accept the outcome. Most people by nature don't want to admit when they are wrong.
 
Old 05-07-2013, 09:28 AM
 
Location: Alameda, CA
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Anyone with common sense would wonder the president and vp running around the country shouting at the roof tops that Osama Bin Laden is dead would have pi**ed them off too. Nothing like rubbing it in Al-quaeda's faces.
Give me a break. Al-Qaeda doesn't require any additional motivation. Its their central mission to attack America and its allies. They are going to carry out that mission wherever the can.
 
Old 05-07-2013, 09:32 AM
 
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We agree OG. The media outed Nixon. Now the media will cover for Obama.

If this was Bush, the media would be all over it but they don't want Obama to be a failure.
The media did a pretty good job of tap dancing around Bush's lies that got us into Iraq. I only wish there was more exposure about his lies, then he wouldn't have seen a second term.
 
Old 05-07-2013, 09:34 AM
 
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ROFL..2 days later Rice was insisting it was due to the movie.
And we still don't know who authorized what she said.."high ranking officials".

Believe what you want. It's not like coverups have never happened in the history of the US Government.

What "I" think they are covering up was a CIA covert operation gone bad of arming the Syrian rebels with guns smuggled through Turkey.
Isn't Rice Hillary Clintons underling?
 
Old 05-07-2013, 09:36 AM
 
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According to the timeline, the attack was initially over 1 hr and a half after it was started and all persons were evacuated from the embassy. What would have been the point of sending more potential targets into the embassy?

Nobody knew that in the morning some contractors at another location would be attacked. It really sounds like we have a lot of Monday morning quarterbacks second-guessing after-the-fact.
It did not happen at the embassy. Why do people continue to reference that the embassy was attacked? He left the embassy to go to the compound. Pretty good chance that had Stephens stayed at the embassy he would be alive today, but he chose to meet with the Turkish representative at the compound. The attack at the consulate happened shortly after the Turkish representative left the compound. It would appear that it was a planned attack with someone inside who knew Stephens' movements, not a random attack.
 
Old 05-07-2013, 09:38 AM
 
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I don't have to. Intelligence agencies and press outside the US had determined it was a terrorist attack.

Maybe our government should have taken their information to heart.

Both Carney and Rice had to tap dance and backtrack and ease their way from "movie outrage" to "terrorist attack". That's what it comes down to.

Sept 26, 2012 - Libyan president to NBC: Anti-Islam film had 'nothing to do with' US Consulate attack.

President Mohamed Magarief discounted claims that the attack was in response to a movie produced in California and available on YouTube.

"They chose this date, 11th of September to carry a certain message."

http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/libyan-president-to-nbc-anti-islam-film-had-nothing-to-do-with-us-consulate-attack
 
Old 05-07-2013, 09:40 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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Obama was spouting that we won the war on terror and that AQ was running with their tails between their legs.
6 weeks to election..he was NOT looking for more security on a war that we supposedly "won".

In fact, security was CUT BACK and they were using local Libyan contractors to do security.
Fail! Obama requested much more money for emabasy security than the GOP led House gave him. Obviously after we killed Bin Laden, there would be a uproar from those who followed him. That is just common sense.

Besides, I never heard Obama say, "Mission Accomplished!"
 
Old 05-07-2013, 09:42 AM
 
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ROFL..2 days later Rice was insisting it was due to the movie.
And we still don't know who authorized what she said.."high ranking officials".

Believe what you want. It's not like coverups have never happened in the history of the US Government.

What "I" think they are covering up was a CIA covert operation gone bad of arming the Syrian rebels with guns smuggled through Turkey.
I have been thinking the same thing. This was a iran contra type mission gone bad.
The protest coverup was a convenent cover. Heck it might have been that the deal was planned on 9-11 because they knew of the coming protests and figured no one would notice their deal with mid east protests goings on. There was no reason to beleive a protest would happen in bengazi since it was a sattlilight office and not the main consulete.
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