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Old 05-15-2013, 06:58 PM
 
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When a president lies and breaks his oath, it's treason. Treason is a crime.

 
Old 05-15-2013, 07:07 PM
 
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I like how the left has now moved on from, Obama didnt lie, to now its not a crime..
Actually, it's pretty conclusive by now that the president did not lie. It was the CIA that believed that the Benghazi attack was in response to the Cairo demonstrations, that were a response to the video "The Innocence of Muslims". They stated that right from the start, and stated that this was preliminary, and that they would change their assessment as new evidence warranted.

And that's exactly what both Obama and Rice claimed. The emails are only interesting if you like office politics. Otherwise, it's mostly "can we stand behind this?" , "hey you told me not to say this publicly, why are you directing other people to do so?" And the like.
 
Old 05-15-2013, 07:07 PM
 
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When a president lies and breaks his oath, it's treason. Treason is a crime.
If that were true the last 6 Presidents, and Vice Presidents all would have been impeached, imprisoned and put to death.

 
Old 05-15-2013, 07:14 PM
 
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Actually, it's pretty conclusive by now that the president did not lie. It was the CIA that believed that the Benghazi attack was in response to the Cairo demonstrations, that were a response to the video "The Innocence of Muslims". They stated that right from the start, and stated that this was preliminary, and that they would change their assessment as new evidence warranted.

And that's exactly what both Obama and Rice claimed. The emails are only interesting if you like office politics. Otherwise, it's mostly "can we stand behind this?" , "hey you told me not to say this publicly, why are you directing other people to do so?" And the like.
So what you're saying is that the CIA is even far more incompetent than Obama
 
Old 05-15-2013, 07:18 PM
 
Location: 77441
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I love watching liberals stumbling around in a blind daze trying to defend obama the liar...
 
Old 05-15-2013, 07:21 PM
 
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So what you're saying is that the CIA is even far more incompetent than Obama
No, what I'm saying is that the CIA can't simply wheel Professor X up to Cerebro and have him use the giant computer to probe for answers using his mutant mind-reading powers.

Sorry, we live in the real world. Investigations take time, initial assessments can be, and often are, incorrect. The job of investigators is to work to find the truth over weeks or months, not to know everything instantly. And if you interrupt them mid-investigation, their job is to say "here's what we know now, but we're still investigation, and our assessment can change." It looks to me like the CIA did their jobs as well.
 
Old 05-15-2013, 07:26 PM
 
Location: Allendale MI
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So what you're saying is that the CIA is even far more incompetent than Obama
Yes Go look up a CIA drug trafficking lol.
 
Old 05-15-2013, 07:50 PM
 
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State Department Pushed to Cut Mention of Prior Attacks from Benghazi Talking Points

Cover up. Period. And if one has to wonder, just what is in the thousands of other emails.amd documents they refuse to release
 
Old 05-15-2013, 08:24 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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I love watching liberals stumbling around in a blind daze trying to defend obama the liar...
That is the paradox the 0bama supporters live with:

1) Either 0bama is a wise and brilliant man, whose leadership is guiding this nation, which would also put him at the heart of all these misdeeds and corruption.

2) or he is bumbling, incompetent boob, who is disconnected, and only concerns himself with his pet projects, like green energy, abortion, immigration reform and endless campaigning, which means he is not in charge, not leading, and he is clueless and oblivious to everything going on around him.


He's president passerby, who never knew anything about the IRS scandal until he saw it on the boob tube. No one tells him anything, because they don't respect him enough to tell him anything, or they know the deal, that he is disconnected and prefers to remain ignorant and out of the loop.


Here we go, the IRS knew, but no one told 0bama? Why, because he's a boob, or because he is a brilliant presidential leader? I vote, clueless, incompetent boob, who is only interested in green energy and making political speeches.

On May 10, it was discovered that the IRS had improperly targeted seventy-five conservative tax-exempt groups that had the words “patriot” or “tea party” on their forms. In a statement, the IRS said, “mistakes were made initially, but they were in no way due to any political or partisan rationale.” It also didn’t help when Lois Lerner, the IRS division head for tax-emept groups, said that she wasn’t “good at math.” In the wake of this public relations disaster, the Washington Post published a scathing editorial last Friday calling for an investigation, and called Obama’s failure to publicly apologize for this catastrophe “disturbing.

IRS Tax-Exempt Scandal Deepens, Agency Knew About Targeting In 2011 | RedState
 
Old 05-15-2013, 08:26 PM
 
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Actually, it's pretty conclusive by now that the president did not lie. It was the CIA that believed that the Benghazi attack was in response to the Cairo demonstrations,
No they didn't. Now if for some beyond belief scenario where they did Obama needs to fire the agency from top to bottom for being so wrong and stupid.
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