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Old 05-05-2013, 05:09 PM
 
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Whats important : is we learned that TM was a very active and involved professional thief, now what this allows us to know is the suspicion which Z cued in on, was intuitively superb. The story unfolds with the aggressive thief trying to kill the good law abiding citizen.

Its a miracle after getting hit in the nose like that, Z was able to protect himself.

Further, if an errand women was there witnessing the head slamming and shot the aggressor she would in fact be a hero for saving the victims life, if Z was an elder or women...he could quite likely not be here...therefore and logically

Z is a hero for saving his own life in an almost impossible situation with a hit to the nose like that while getting the head slammed against concrete,

This whole thing has nothing to do with anything but, dealing with the criminal media for advancing a potential and uproar, including sending out pic's of TM as a little youngster, also phrasing sentence's in a deliberate inflammatory way to create as much chaos as possible alongside the youngster very young pics. He was a very strong and capable adult. Prob more so then the average 35 yr old easily. Everyone knows all this. The system is now obviously working together on timing and co ordination meting out bits and progression, in order to address damage control which the media is responsible for. Social management is always very easy to see. Z is a hero for saving a life, his own. ( everyone knows this in their mind.

 
Old 05-05-2013, 05:14 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Originally Posted by stargazzer View Post
Whats important : is we learned that TM was a very active and involved professional thief, now what this allows us to know is the suspicion which Z cued in on, was intuitively superb. The story unfolds with the aggressive thief trying to kill the good law abiding citizen.

Its a miracle after getting hit in the nose like that, Z was able to protect himself.

Further, if an errand women was there witnessing the head slamming and shot the aggressor she would in fact be a hero for saving the victims life, if Z was an elder or women...he could quite likely not be here...therefore and logically

Z is a hero for saving his own life in an almost impossible situation with a hit to the nose like that while getting the head slammed against concrete,

This whole thing has nothing to do with anything but, dealing with the criminal media for advancing a potential and uproar, including sending out pic's of TM as a little youngster, also phrasing sentence's in a deliberate inflammatory way to create as much chaos as possible alongside the youngster very young pics. He was a very strong and capable adult. Prob more so then the average 35 yr old easily. Everyone knows all this. The system is now obviously working together on timing and co ordination meting out bits and progression, in order to address damage control which the media is responsible for. Social management is always very easy to see.
GZ seemed to "intuit" that any young black male was "suspicious" per his police phone history. It has never been shown that TM was doing anything other than walking home, talking to his female friend on the phone.

GZ had an arrest record and no college degree at the age of 28. Strong and capable adult my foot!
 
Old 05-05-2013, 05:31 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Katiana View Post
GZ seemed to "intuit" that any young black male was "suspicious" per his police phone history. It has never been shown that TM was doing anything other than walking home, talking to his female friend on the phone.

GZ had an arrest record and no college degree at the age of 28. Strong and capable adult my foot!
No, I was explaining TM was a strong and capable adult, not a child as shown in initial inflammatory news. Easily TM would be way stronger then the average 35 yr old male.


You did not speak to the saving of a life, if a women was there in the dark of night and shot TM she would be in fact a hero. Z saved his life, one more slam could have killed him, that is how people in fact die.

If Zimmerman had a history of reporting suspicious people and a good majority were Black males, so what ? How do you know these were not very accurate ? where is the evidence to back up what you are inferring ? So this reference is of no use whatsoever.

How do you know TM was doing nothing other then walking home ?

Last edited by stargazzer; 05-05-2013 at 05:45 PM.. Reason: edited
 
Old 05-05-2013, 05:35 PM
 
Location: The Cascade Foothills
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Whats important : is we learned that TM was a very active and involved professional thief, now what this allows us to know is the suspicion which Z cued in on, was intuitively superb. The story unfolds with the aggressive thief trying to kill the good law abiding citizen.
Prove it! Provide links to credible sources to PROVE that Trayvon was an "active and professional thief."
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Its a miracle after getting hit in the nose like that, Z was able to protect himself.
Oh....you mean the pop in the nose that didn't even require a trip to the hospital?

Quote:
Further, if an errand women was there witnessing the head slamming and shot the aggressor she would in fact be a hero for saving the victims life, if Z was an elder or women...he could quite likely not be here...therefore and logically
That is nothing more than baseless speculation. If you have some PROOF, post it.

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Z is a hero for saving his own life in an almost impossible situation with a hit to the nose like that while getting the head slammed against concrete,
Again, injuries that didn't even require immediate attention.

In fact, they were so superficial they didn't even require a trip to the hospital - until the next day when he was likely advised to "cover your ass."

Quote:
This whole thing has nothing to do with anything but, dealing with the criminal media for advancing a potential and uproar, including sending out pic's of TM as a little youngster, also phrasing sentence's in a deliberate inflammatory way to create as much chaos as possible alongside the youngster very young pics. He was a very strong and capable adult. Prob more so then the average 35 yr old easily. Everyone knows all this. The system is now obviously working together on timing and co ordination meting out bits and progression, in order to address damage control which the media is responsible for. Social management is always very easy to see. Z is a hero for saving a life, his own. ( everyone knows this in their mind.
Huh?
 
Old 05-05-2013, 05:37 PM
 
Location: In your head, rent free
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[quote=Evenstar51;29434581]Kat showed you repeatedly that Zimmerman wasn't an official Neighborhood Watch member; that report is so consistent because it's true. Perhaps you could provide a link proving otherwise.

George Zimmerman not a member of recognized neighborhood watch organization | theGrio


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“In no program that I have ever heard of does someone patrol with a gun in their pocket,” Carmen Caldwell, the Executive Director of Citizens’ Crime Watch of Miami-Dade, told theGrio. “Every city and municipality has their own policies. Here in Miami-Dade we train people only to be the eyes and ears of their communities. Not to follow and most definitely not to carry a weapon.”
Despite this, Zimmerman admitted that he had fired a weapon on the night of the incident. In addition, the non-emergency call Zimmerman placed on February 26 before the shooting revealed he had been pursuing Martin by car before accosting the youth on foot — all direct violations of Neighborhood Watch policies.[end quote]
You just repeated what I said a few posts back. Would you like to show me anything that proves that GZ appointed himself as captain or even a member of this fictitious neighborhood watch org?
 
Old 05-05-2013, 05:49 PM
 
Location: The Cascade Foothills
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No, I was explaining TM was a strong and capable adult, not a child as shown in initial inflammatory news. Easily TM would be way stronger then the average 35 yr old male.


You did not speak to the saving of a life, if a women was there in the dark of night and shot TM she would be in fact a hero. Z saved his life, one more slam could have killed him, that is how people in fact die.

If Zimmerman had a history of reporting suspicious people and a good majority were Black males, so what ? How do you know these were not very accurate ? where is the evidence to back up what you are inferring ? So this reference is of no use whatsoever.

How do you know TM was doing nothing other then walking home ?
Why did you edit out all but the first sentence of the rest of your last paragraph?

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How do you know TM was doing nothing other then walking home.. ? As a matter of significance all evidence in the tape, 3 voices including one saying...you been following him ? and grocery show him constantly looking outside as though waiting or referring to someone waiting for him.
 
Old 05-05-2013, 05:54 PM
 
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Prove it! Provide links to credible sources to PROVE that Trayvon was an "active and professional thief."
Oh....you mean the pop in the nose that didn't even require a trip to the hospital?

That is nothing more than baseless speculation. If you have some PROOF, post it.

Again, injuries that didn't even require immediate attention.

In fact, they were so superficial they didn't even require a trip to the hospital - until the next day when he was likely advised to "cover your ass."

Huh?
1) Ive been hit in the nose. It would be simple to get experts to explain the impairment to the conscious function with a hit to the nose causing even much less damage then we see with Z injury, so no chance on that argument..

2) Above and explained circumstance in the head slamming at night, by a perfect stranger easily justifies another shooting TM...if you fail to see this, then all that could be said is that I hope if this ever happened to me and someone else was there...it would not be you, because you have just explained a notifiable uselessness in an emergency situation. (for now in context and its time to get real about this.

At night, a stranger of that size and strength, hit to the nose and slamming head against concrete, that is how people die, it is attempt at murder in full motion.

3) Its pretty much known TM was involved in at least jewelery thieving.

Last edited by stargazzer; 05-05-2013 at 06:20 PM.. Reason: in context
 
Old 05-05-2013, 06:09 PM
 
Location: The Cascade Foothills
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1)

3) Its pretty much known TM was involved in at least jewelery thieving.
Really? What do you mean by "pretty much?"

Was he ever charged? Convicted?

Links, please.
 
Old 05-05-2013, 06:12 PM
 
Location: Illinois Delta
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[quote=TheMoreYouKnow;29435560]
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Originally Posted by Evenstar51 View Post
Kat showed you repeatedly that Zimmerman wasn't an official Neighborhood Watch member; that report is so consistent because it's true. Perhaps you could provide a link proving otherwise.

George Zimmerman not a member of recognized neighborhood watch organization | theGrio




You just repeated what I said a few posts back. Would you like to show me anything that proves that GZ appointed himself as captain or even a member of this fictitious neighborhood watch org?

Neighborhood watch leader may have uttered racial slur before shooting | Fox News

[quote] The self-appointed neighborhood watch leader who gunned down an unarmed black teen may have uttered a racial slur before the shooting as he spoke with Florida dispatch officials..."[end quote]

Trayvon Martin killing: George Zimmerman was part of a neighborhood watch. Do those actually decrease crime? - Slate Magazine

[quote] George Zimmerman, a self-appointed captain of an unregistered neighborhood watch, confronted and fatally shot the teenager 70 yards from his father’s house. Do neighborhood watch programs decrease crime rates?" [end quote]

Trayvon Martin Arrest Now After ABC Reveals Crucial Phone Call - ABC News

Knock yourself out.
 
Old 05-05-2013, 06:12 PM
 
Location: Center of the universe
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Originally Posted by Cinebar View Post
Prove it! Provide links to credible sources to PROVE that Trayvon was an "active and professional thief."
Oh....you mean the pop in the nose that didn't even require a trip to the hospital?

That is nothing more than baseless speculation. If you have some PROOF, post it.

Again, injuries that didn't even require immediate attention.

In fact, they were so superficial they didn't even require a trip to the hospital - until the next day when he was likely advised to "cover your ass."

Huh?
Now you know why I have so many of these yahoos on ignore. Pure insanity.
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