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Old 03-03-2013, 08:58 PM
 
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I looked at Woodman very carefully .... read some excerpts from his book (I wouldn't pay 2 cents to that hack for that thing he calls a book), and have read what he's written on his website and some of his responses to comments on his you tube video, and there is one thing clear, he's a pure phony. Oh sure he's a tea party conservative , and he only got interested in this whole birth certificate deal because he was actually believing that Obama's eligibility was highly questionable, so, for curiosity's sake, he engaged in an in depth, 3 month investigation which was the basis for his book that covers everything ... all of the claims and accusations .... what a guy! A marvel and research genius ... where other authors might research a subject for YEARS .... Mr. Woodman dedicated a whole 3 months ... which works out to about 1 day per every two pages of his 200 page book!

What did I see in some of the excerpts of his book, and other comments elsewhere? Same lame tired and worn out Orwellian double talk ... diversion tactics ... circular reasoning ... and rather obvious straw man arguments that he constructs and then defeats. He does what most con artists do ... the primary tool in the "debunker's toolbox" ... he extolls the massive numbers of people who would have to be "in on it" for such a conspiracy to work, which makes such a conspiracy impossible, and for every issue raised, the gratuitous "oh not that again .. that has been debunked long ago" response, which is actually no response at all.

Without going to the laborious effort of highlighting all of Woodman's blatant distortions, let me just highlight one of the more simple to grasp examples for those among the Obots who aren't real bright. In one of the more amateurish and easily defeated examples is the big deal he makes of the coding numbers ... claiming the cold case pose deliberately distorted the evidence, as Woodman shows in his rather detailed breakdown, and then concludes:

By the way, as you can clearly see, “9″ isn’t “not reported or not stated.” It’s “other nonwhite,” which (according to the manual’s instructions) actually happens to be how Obama’s father’s race would’ve been classified.

This is the response to the penciled in number 9 next to "african" in reference to the father's race, which the Pose' claims that the number 9 meant "no answer given" .. while Woodman insists this means "other nonwhite". PROBLEM .... directly below this entry of Race of Father and the penciled in 9, is labeled "kind of business or industry which was answered University, also with a penciled in 9 (in reference to the preceding question of occupation which was declared "student"). So OBVIOUSLY Woodman is either as dumb as a box of rocks, or he thinks everyone else is, and that no one would notice how answering the question of "Kind of Business or Industry" as "other nonwhite" would make no sense whatsoever.

So, as he identifies himself as a logical, unbiased person who simply allowed the evidence to dictate his conclusions, rather than the other way around ... he actually proves to do exactly the opposite. He's a total hack, and not very good at it either. Some of his tactics are so bad, it shows that he has some connections just to get anyone to publish that compilation of rubbish he calls a book.



Oh that's a laugh ..... of your past 200 posts, about 3/4th or more have been on the Obama BC. You're a bleeding liberal leftist, and if you're "blissfully independent" ... Santa Claus is an atheist.
I see the "voice of reason" has emerged to offer another round of logical argument.

So ... let's see ... one man writes a terrible book, claiming that birthers are FOS. Therefore, all birther claims are automatically valid. Hmmm ...

I note that you never responded to one of my posts which was directed specifically to you, and I can only suppose it's because you're unable to do so:

Breaking News: NBC's Savannah Guthrie Helps Confirm Obama's Birth Certificate Has Been Altered

That explains that.
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Old 03-03-2013, 09:00 PM
 
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Oh that's a laugh ..... of your past 200 posts, about 3/4th or more have been on the Obama BC.
i actually thought the percentage would be much higher than that.

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You're a bleeding liberal leftist, and if you're "blissfully independent" ...
need i remind you that my views on birtherism are shared by karl rove, ann coulter, jan brewer and pretty much every prominent member of the GOP.
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Old 03-03-2013, 09:05 PM
 
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that's nice. neither one is a qualified document forensics expert.
No one needs to be a document forensic expert to see this clearly created forgery from a mile away. It's so terribly obvious, and such an amateurish joke, I'm left wondering if this wasn't actually deliberate .... knowing that this would become just another issue for a relentless left-right battle between the brainless left wing droolers waving this fraudulent document in the air as their flag of victory in the faces of those who actually possess the intelligence to see it for what it is ... which really doesn't take much more brain power that that which might allow a person to defeat a Golden Retriever in a game of checkers.

Just another great distraction. That's my theory. Because I don't think even this clownish group is actually stupid enough to post the editable file on the White House website accidentally, rather than a jpeg image. This has to be a deliberate act ... a psy-op.

The Smily Face in Onaka's signature is a clue.
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Old 03-03-2013, 09:09 PM
 
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No one needs to be a document forensic expert .....
you do if you want to give expert testimony in court. that's usually pretty important to get in an investigation.
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Old 03-03-2013, 09:11 PM
 
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that's nice. neither one is a qualified document forensics expert.
Nope but they are computer imaging experts, something you or HistorianDude aren't.
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Old 03-03-2013, 09:14 PM
 
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No one needs to be a document forensic expert to see this clearly created forgery from a mile away. It's so terribly obvious, and such an amateurish joke, I'm left wondering if this wasn't actually deliberate .... knowing that this would become just another issue for a relentless left-right battle between the brainless left wing droolers waving this fraudulent document in the air as their flag of victory in the faces of those who actually possess the intelligence to see it for what it is ... which really doesn't take much more brain power that that which might allow a person to defeat a Golden Retriever in a game of checkers.

Just another great distraction. That's my theory. Because I don't think even this clownish group is actually stupid enough to post the editable file on the White House website accidentally, rather than a jpeg image. This has to be a deliberate act ... a psy-op.

The Smily Face in Onaka's signature is a clue.
There's a fine line that separates reasoned skepticism from psychiatric disability.
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Old 03-03-2013, 09:16 PM
 
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Nope but they are computer imaging experts,....
that's nice. now where are the document forensics experts?
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Old 03-03-2013, 09:32 PM
 
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There's a fine line that separates reasoned skepticism from psychiatric disability.

And since you have no familiarity with reason .... and think it a sign of craziness to be skeptical of proven liars by profession ... which is all politicians are .... you're obviously in no position to assess psychiatric issues.
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Old 03-03-2013, 11:06 PM
 
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And since you have no familiarity with reason .... and think it a sign of craziness to be skeptical of proven liars by profession ... which is all politicians are .... you're obviously in no position to assess psychiatric issues.
The "M.D." after my name gives me the right to assess such issues.
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Old 03-03-2013, 11:17 PM
 
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Nope but they are computer imaging experts, something you or HistorianDude aren't.
No they aren't.

Mara Zebest isn't a "computer imaging" expert. She just knows how to use an OUTDATED form of Photoshop (a version that hasn't been in existence for 8 years) A High School student in a new media arts class knows more than she does. I wouldn't consider that student an expert either.

Gary Papit is not a "computer imaging" expert, either.

And there is no such thing as a "computer imaging" expert. There are experts in programs that are used to CREATE images on a computer.


There are special criteria that experts must meet to treat any of their opinions as expert testimony in a legal sense. Mara and Gary do not even come close to meeting those criteria

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