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Old 09-29-2012, 11:07 AM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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No, because its cheaper to self insure when one can afford it. I have saved thousands not buying petty insurance when I can afford to insure myself with savings. Didn't you figure that personal finance detail out?

There is nothing I can do to get away from the vast majority of resource mismanagement experts in the macro economy, as it clear from the dialog I have had with them. They would not so much as read long paragraph on a complex subject yet feel at liberty to offer their ....uh hard to describe. Then the likes of you want to get into personal fiances where you are equally incompetent.
http://www.ebestproducts.com/2012/05...nce-important/

Do you buy those warranty extension plans too ?


So you want da guberment to force da socialism so that I can join da dolts in their resource mismanagement. Since we disagree and obviously want nothing to do with each other, doesn't it make sense to part ways? Oh but no you want agents to follow me around and force me to "contribute". Where does it end? Don't people need food more than birth control? Don't I need fresh water? Da guberment needs to take care of every need? That is why you, and others like you are such social defects as to be incapable of understanding personal agency and its value.

If people had to pay and be responsible for their children, they would certainly be very interested investing in birth control.
Don't break your neck falling off your high horse. I was in the hospital for three days last December for a hip replacement. The hospital cost alone was $76,000! You have that in a shoebox somewhere? You may wish you hadn't called that other poster incompetent.
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Old 09-29-2012, 11:10 AM
 
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What about beer? Do we get free beer?
Free everything!

I have this consistent belief that public funds and properties should revolve around the physical world where we tend to interact. That is why thought police are not particularly tolerated by me. I don't ride my donkey through anyone's tulips in my head.

So..I think roads, land, air, water sources, bandwidth , domain names using language, money and other such natural monopolies are all a public domain to be managed. So its pretty easy to know what should receive funding with my philosophy.

Yet, all I ask is which political philosophy does this fall under such that a manufactured good is given away by an edict? What about people who don't want them? What about medicinal beer?

What these citizens ...em..also fail to realize is that with such an arbitrary system, the mercantile economy will be at liberty to sell by law, not by market. The green bean industry will fund a study to show green beans are good, and then they will lobby to have this subsidized and so on. And why not? What principle that has been established has been violated once we decide in a command economy what manufactured good should be distributed to the people?

So we have da gumberment by PMS , but I am glad to say that it cannot last as no democracy that raids the treasury has been shown to last from the thousands of pages of political history that I have read.

Maybe we will watch it... drinking da guberment medicinal beer.
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Old 09-29-2012, 11:14 AM
 
Location: The Brat Stop
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Default You will pay for a womens birth control and like it

OK.
Republicans For Planned Parenthood: 'We're An Endangered Species'

go figure.
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Old 09-29-2012, 11:14 AM
 
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Default You will pay for a womens birth control and like it

I do and I do..

Your point is what exactly? That your pleased for me? Well thank you, no need though, i'm more than happy to do it.
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Old 09-29-2012, 11:22 AM
 
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Don't break your neck falling off your high horse. I was in the hospital for three days last December for a hip replacement. The hospital cost alone was $76,000! You have that in a shoebox somewhere? You may wish you hadn't called that other poster incompetent.

I think you must have hit your head because I said petty insurance for costs I can afford , not for catastrophes I cannot afford. I have insurance for that. That is what insurance is for, not single payer buying groups. Do you know the difference?

What sort of catastrophic birth control issue do you have?

Last edited by CaseyB; 09-29-2012 at 11:55 AM.. Reason: off topic
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Old 09-29-2012, 12:07 PM
 
Location: Columbus
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1. Why should it matter WHY the person is taking a medication/pill, and how would only covering one use be more or less cost-effective? FYI, most plans still require a co-pay for the pill - usually around $10-20/pack.

2. Would you rather cut back on the number of BC users (which would be a likely outcome), and increase the number of unwanted pregnancies? Good plan.

3. Women could easily lie if such restrictions were put into place. "Why do you need birth control pills, ma'am?" "My cramps are SO awful I can't focus or work." "Okay, here you go." Simple as that! Just because you think insurance should only cover its medical use, for whatever godforsaken reason, that doesn't mean it's a logical argument. Ponder my points, and maybe use some common sense to think it through for a moment.
If you look at birth rates in the U.S during the 1930s and at the Soviet Bloc countries (BC was illegal in both cases) you'll see there are more births in the U.S. today where bc is readily available to anyone that wants it.

People don't have kids when there is no economic opportunity. All bc does is allow people to have sex without repercussion. I'm not saying that's wrong. Just sayin' birth rates don't necessarily go up without bc.
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Old 09-29-2012, 12:13 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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I think you must have hit your head because I said petty insurance for costs I can afford , not for catastrophes I cannot afford. I have insurance for that. That is what insurance is for, not single payer buying groups. Do you know the difference?

What sort of catastrophic birth control issue do you have?
There was nothing in the post I quoted about you having any kind of insurance. Where is it written that insurance is to be only for catastrophic health care expenses? Who gets to define catastrophic?

I'm not answering your last question because it is personal and should have been deleted with the rest of that slur you posted about me.
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Old 09-29-2012, 12:44 PM
 
Location: Houston
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76K seems outrageous. What people never ask in these debates is why is the cost so darn high in the first place.
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Old 09-29-2012, 12:53 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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76K seems outrageous. What people never ask in these debates is why is the cost so darn high in the first place.
That included the hospital costs of the surgery, not that I think it was cheap!
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Old 09-29-2012, 01:31 PM
 
Location: California
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Default You will pay for a womens birth control and like it

I really have no problem paying for birth control if it was to reduce the amount of abortions but i think the problem is these folks already have access to free birth control but don't use it. It's a lose, lose situation, you can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink.
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