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Old 07-27-2012, 02:46 PM
 
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I'm not on it. It probably won't exists when I reach retirement age in 20 years. I don't care if you insult FDR. I would consider him one of the 3 worst Presidents in U.S history along with LBJ and Obama. They all did the most to expand the welfare state and I cannot despise them enough for it.
I guess you are not a historian.
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Old 07-27-2012, 02:47 PM
 
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I pay Social Security and supposedly my money is invested FOR me, therefore, I should get it back. If you want to talk about something that is not fair, talk about welfare.
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Old 07-27-2012, 02:49 PM
 
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I guess you are not a historian.
OK which Presidents expanded welfare more than those 3?
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Old 07-27-2012, 02:51 PM
 
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I pay Social Security and supposedly my money is invested FOR me, therefore, I should get it back. If you want to talk about something that is not fair, talk about welfare.
I agree. Social Security should never be lumped in with welfare. People are forced to contribute to SS..
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Old 07-27-2012, 02:57 PM
 
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OK which Presidents expanded welfare more than those 3?
I think it went over your head. Must be the desert heat. Historians put FDR as in the top 3 best presidents; therefore, you must not be a historian. Get it. O.K.


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Old 07-27-2012, 03:13 PM
 
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Most Historians are Democrates. FDR robbed us all of reaL money......... Hotair when was the last silver certificate made and how many do you have? That was the last vestige of money and even that wasn't real, since there was never a Silver Standard. The next notes we got were in fact printed by the US Tres. called United States Notes and I have one... Then came the fedral reserve which isn'[t even a PRESS OWNED BY THE GOVT.

Unless your very close to 60 chance are you never once in your life held a dollar. I agrre with Jay, FDR, Johnson, and Obama are the worst of the worst and the Kennedy's are runner up. Obama hasn't done a thing worth the doing and none of his hench men have either......

It's just too bad Mitt must follow the lead and i hope he can do it, but I have my doubts..
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Old 07-27-2012, 03:34 PM
 
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Most Historians are Democrates. FDR robbed us all of reaL money......... Hotair when was the last silver certificate made and how many do you have? That was the last vestige of money and even that wasn't real, since there was never a Silver Standard. The next notes we got were in fact printed by the US Tres. called United States Notes and I have one... Then came the fedral reserve which isn'[t even a PRESS OWNED BY THE GOVT.

Unless your very close to 60 chance are you never once in your life held a dollar. I agrre with Jay, FDR, Johnson, and Obama are the worst of the worst and the Kennedy's are runner up. Obama hasn't done a thing worth the doing and none of his hench men have either......

It's just too bad Mitt must follow the lead and i hope he can do it, but I have my doubts..
Of course, if someone disagrees with you they must be a democrat. Forget the fact that their whole life has been spent studying history.
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Old 07-27-2012, 03:43 PM
 
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What is history? Once at Ft Ticonderoga there were scalpes in the display cases, but these have all been removed and trhe play of the day for history is the Ft Ti was always just a nice place to have a picknic!

The 15,000 dead from one battle alone mean nothing to anyone any more.

Same thing at gettysburg.... just a nice place to have a sandwich....

Next thing you will tell me is Hitler was a nice guy and the german peiople wanted a gun ban....

If you can tell me anything Obama has done to improve the lot of the Nation and there is room to agree and i do I will be astonished.

And you didn't say if you ever held a real dollar once in your life did you?

If you spent a life time in study of history it seems you wasted a life time.

Do you do Taft, Cleveland and etc as well? Wanna be Custer?
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Old 07-27-2012, 04:10 PM
 
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What is history? Once at Ft Ticonderoga there were scalpes in the display cases, but these have all been removed and trhe play of the day for history is the Ft Ti was always just a nice place to have a picknic!

The 15,000 dead from one battle alone mean nothing to anyone any more.

Same thing at gettysburg.... just a nice place to have a sandwich....

Next thing you will tell me is Hitler was a nice guy and the german peiople wanted a gun ban....

If you can tell me anything Obama has done to improve the lot of the Nation and there is room to agree and i do I will be astonished.

And you didn't say if you ever held a real dollar once in your life did you?

If you spent a life time in study of history it seems you wasted a life time.

Do you do Taft, Cleveland and etc as well? Wanna be Custer?
What? FDRCare, there back on topic.
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Old 07-27-2012, 04:13 PM
 
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FDR care - SS and the loss of the gold std.... You ever hold a real dollar?
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