America must follow Iceland's example to obtain Liberty (insurance, dollars, money)
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We are an empire in decline, change doesn't just randomly occur, it takes people who want to make a difference.
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Originally Posted by whogo
Our empire needs to decline for own security and prosperity.
Let's stop right here. We are not, never have been, never will be, or have any desire to be, an empire. Had we chosen to be one, we could have done so in late 1945. We did not, instead we formed alliances, not establish colonies.
The fantasy Global Icelandic Empire or the real Iceland with a population of 317,398 people?
It is your inability, or your blatant refusal to view things in the proper perspective that makes you, how was it put? an "OWS Lunatic"
Seriously, you're going to compare Iceland to the US? You compare things that are similar. Iceland is in no way, shape or form even remotely similar to the US. There are cities in the US with bigger GDPs than Iceland.
In fact, there are more than 150 US cities with a GDP larger than Iceland. Heck, the city of Sioux Falls South Dakota.
Just because one country can do something, it does not logically follow that every country can do the same thing. And the US cannot do what Iceland did, because Americans are soft and weak and don't have the stomach for hardship.
You need the bankers more than they need you.
Realistically...
Mircea
Some of what you write has truth mixed in.
But I didn't read anything from the OP that puts him in a category of OWS -- or any kind of lunatic. Dreamer, maybe. But he is right that historically dreamers have enacted reform. I don't believe that can happen much anymore in the same historical sense. Much of what the OP has expressed could also be compared with capitalist ideals and even some tea-party rhetoric mixed in.
I'm also in agreement that Iceland and America are not good comparables -- for lots of reasons. But I dont see where American cultural softness at this time translates to Icelandic "stomach for hardship". Icelanders aren't living any great hardship conditions and haven't for certainly the past century.
But most of all I disagree with your abrupt blanket statement that the public needs the bankers more than the bankers need the public. Or perhaps you meant just the OP, or the public as individuals? The bankers need the aggregate public. Without the public, they have no game within which to indulge their sociopathic obsessions. That game is their very identity. They are no more capable of quiting their neurotic, anti-social pursuit of fantasy wealth and power, than a natural musician can stop humming and whistling, or an artist can stop drawing on every available surface.
OWS might have some nutty ideas but none of them were more nutty than holding no one accountable for breaking our financial laws in crashing the economy.
Healthcare should be free as well as a college education, we made a high school education free when it was needed to create a work force and in today's world a college education is needed to rebuild the American work force.
Instead of having to pay high interest for student loans people will be able to put that money back into the economy.
Where is the money going to come from? DEFENSE BUDGET, the total defense budget is over 50% of the federal budget we can cut it in half and still out spend every nation on earth.
We have around a 1,000 military bases around the world, At it's height Rome had only 30 some military bases.
We can cut 2/3 of the bases, the Cold War is over; let those troops spend their money at home.
What a boom to the local economy of every state if 700 bases were relocated here, that would be 14 bases for each state.
Unfortunately, they have most everybody fooled ... they created themselves a pretty nice gig out of mostly thin air, didn't they? No basis for value anymore except, basically, trust in the system they created and control -- out of thin air.
OWS might have some nutty ideas but none of them were more nutty than holding no one accountable for breaking our financial laws in crashing the economy.
The real fact of the matter if we held people to breaking finacial laws then we have alot of normal citizens who are co-conspitators with signed documents as evidence.
THE BLASPHEMERS THAT VIOLATE THE LAWS OF MAMMON MUST BE PUNISHED!
Financiers must never be held accountable for their actions. To do so would destroy their right to manipulate the economy for their benefit of the owners and the gamblers.
Healthcare should be free as well as a college education, we made a high school education free when it was needed to create a work force and in today's world a college education is needed to rebuild the American work force.
Instead of having to pay high interest for student loans people will be able to put that money back into the economy.
Where is the money going to come from? DEFENSE BUDGET, the total defense budget is over 50% of the federal budget we can cut it in half and still out spend every nation on earth.
We have around a 1,000 military bases around the world, At it's height Rome had only 30 some military bases.
We can cut 2/3 of the bases, the Cold War is over; let those troops spend their money at home.
What a boom to the local economy of every state if 700 bases were relocated here, that would be 14 bases for each state.
Who would pay for that "free" healthcare?
And the military bases we have is called force projection.
And the usual liberal wet dream is taking money from defense and spend it on social engineering.......which never works.
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No basis for value anymore except, basically, trust in the system they created and control -- out of thin air.
