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And how do you, and all the other conspiracy theory fans, established that? Do you propose that there is a worldwide conspiracy including all oil companies and car makers in Europe, Japan, Korea, Germany, France and the US?
Should be getting 40 with conventional tech? How did you come up with that number? Are you an engineer?
If you feel this way why don't you just design the engine and a car that gets 40mpg and for the same amount of money that you paid for your Fusion... LOL
Yes, I am. No degree, but I have been listed as the project engineer in many project and company wide organization charts.
FYI, the Fusion Hybrid was in the middle $20's, something comparable to a lower tech car with half the mpg's.
LOL, why would a site set up for the benefit of Amway be interesting? This is interesting...
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Amway was ordered to accompany any such statements withthe actual averages per distributor,pointing out that more than half of the distributors do not make any money,withthe average distributor making less than $100 per month.
On November 3, 2010, Amway announced that it had agreed to pay $56 million –$34 million in cash and $22 million in products – to settle a class action that had been filed in FederalDistrict Court in California in 2007. [95] The class action, which had been brought against Quixtar and several of its top-leveldistributors, alleged fraud, racketeering,andthat the defendants operated as an illegal pyramid scheme.
many of the “high level distributorssingingthe praises of Quixtar [Amway]” are actually “making most of their moneybyselling motivational books tapes and seminars; not Quixtar’s cosmetics, soaps, and electronics.
Some Amway distributorswere involved with an urban legend that the (old) Procter & Gamble service mark was in fact a Satanic symbol or that the CEO of P&G is himself a practicing Satanist. On March 20, 2007, Procter & Gamble was awarded $19.25M by a U.S. District Court jury inSalt Lake City, in the lawsuit against the four former Amway distributors.
The game is rigged, but this fantasy world where the "American dream" was the reality is pure BS and never existed.
This has always been the land where "all (wealthy white male large landowners) are created equal"; where robber-barons bought politicians more than a century ago to keep the common man down and their bank accounts overflowing and where chances of a poor minority boy to become an uberwealthly "mover and shaker" in society were more astronomical than the odds of a Midevil Italian peasant becoming the king of England.
So don't feel like we somehow lost something... it was always an ideal but we never quite reached it in reality.
We need to demand a future world that can actually live up to the ideal, not feel sorry for ourselves over some idealized pseudo-past.
How about coming up with some of your own ideas. If you're unable to do that and present them to people, then you should probably not be pasting the opinion of others.
Whatever rag you got that opinion from is useless. It says that the recession is far from over. They need to look up what a recession is. It's been over for years. It's stupid to say otherwise.
They also fall into the trap of talking about unemployment levels. Unemployment rates have ALWAYS excluded certain types of people such as those not actively in the labor market. Some people are so stupid and uneducated that they don't realize this. They hear about it for the first time on right wing talk radio (since they were too lazy to study in school) and assume that it's some conspiracy to rig the data. We're not at Great Depression unemployment levels. Anyone who says that is an idiot and has no understanding of economics or history.
Finally, were the moron who wrote that useless blog post able to really estimate rates of inflation like that, they'd be so wealthy they wouldn't bother writing things like that. They'd be on a yacht in the French riviera dating eastern European models.
There are plenty of measures around showing the upward mobility of people in various economies in various countries. You should go read about them.
While government (un)employment statistics show that 8.3% are out of work, the number is closer to 22%
No. There are different measures of unemployment, preferring one more than the more commonly accepted one because it makes good talking point doesn't mean 8.3% is wrong.
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And for those just exiting college with hundred thousand dollar degrees in their hands, the prospect of ever finding a job and paying of those loans is almost nil.
Almost nil? None of them will find jobs or pay off their student loans? Worthless hyperbole.
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Moreover, whatever money you do make (or save) will rapidly lose value as inflation, downplayed by the government of course, takes hold at a rate in excess of 10% per year, which means your money will be cut in half by 50% within seven years
Speculation presented as fact.
This thread was overall a piece of crap, it didn't debunk anything.
Hmm, interesting, the median Canadian is richer, works less, has more sex, has more holiday time than the median American.
Is the USA the way you want it or would you prefer the more modest Canadian approach to things like the size of houses and vehicles, and of course the number of hours worked ?
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Canada stole the American dream ?
