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Old 05-18-2012, 04:17 PM
 
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I'm all for baseball, motherhood, the flag and the American way, but to tell you the truth I don't see democracy getting us out of this mess. What am I missing?
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Old 05-18-2012, 04:21 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Baseball ? Full of druggies on steriods.
Motherhood ? Don't need no stinking motherhood when government can cover all your basic needs.
The Flag ? Optional now.
American way ? Diversity and globalism rules now.
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Old 05-18-2012, 04:24 PM
 
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Baseball ? Full of druggies on steriods.
Motherhood ? Don't need no stinking motherhood when government can cover all your basic needs.
The Flag ? Optional now.
American way ? Diversity and globalism rules now.
Is America really finished, then?

I think despair is a sin.
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Old 05-18-2012, 04:28 PM
 
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What am I missing?
That your worries are the product of propaganda. The rule is the same: self-interest is the most important ingredient to success in a good or bad country.
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Old 05-18-2012, 04:32 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Is America really finished, then?

I think despair is a sin.
I'm not in despair, not at all. I've just positioned myself to be as least connected to "the system" as I can and still live my life.

Moving to a small rural town in Texas has shown me that we are not finished by a long run and that there are people that maintain the "old values".
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Old 05-18-2012, 04:32 PM
 
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I don't see democracy getting us out of this mess.
Yes it will. Getting rid of Obama is the key.


An Obama style dictatorship is what we are getting a taste of right now.

America should not go down that road.
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Old 05-18-2012, 04:35 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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That your worries are the product of propaganda. The rule is the same: self-interest is the most important ingredient to success in a good or bad country.
propaganda ?

The US is trillions in debt and we have to borrow just to pay the interest and yet we are handing billions, yes billions to other countries.
Really ? Egypt needs a billion every year to maintain an army and they don't even like us anymore. We have Afghanistan asking us to give them $2 billion or more each year..just because ?

Where is the "self interest" of the US in that ?
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Old 05-18-2012, 04:43 PM
 
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propaganda ?

The US is trillions in debt and we have to borrow just to pay the interest and yet we are handing billions, yes billions to other countries.
Really ? Egypt needs a billion every year to maintain an army and they don't even like us anymore. We have Afghanistan asking us to give them $2 billion or more each year..just because ?

Where is the "self interest" of the US in that ?
Your self-interest is not the same as the US's interests.

The propaganda is the widespread notion that you and I, individuals, make a difference. That may have been true prior to universal suffrage, but now we must suffer the fate of all democracies: we must fall to the least worthy majority. As the nation falls, those who hold power will be more and more indebted to foreign countries and shadow players. Each of us can be fools who subscribe to the notion of self-sacrifice for others and the country, and those who do will be at the bottom.

Regardless of what you believe, however, you can't change the nature of democracies. The end is here.
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Old 05-18-2012, 04:45 PM
 
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Your self-interest is not the same as the US's interests.

The propaganda is the widespread notion that you and I, individuals, make a difference. That may have been true prior to universal suffrage, but now we must suffer the fate of all democracies: we must fall to the least worthy majority. As the nation falls, those who hold power will be more and more indebted to foreign countries and shadow players. Each of us can be fools who subscribe to the notion of self-sacrifice for others and the country, and those who do will be at the bottom.

Regardless of what you believe, however, you can't change the nature of democracies. The end is here.
Ok, now I understand what you meant. Yes, I agree.
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Old 05-18-2012, 04:48 PM
 
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most on CD seem to think so....
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