Trayvon Martin Case Updates: 2 Judges Recuse, "graphic pictures" of Zimmerman's Injuries, Bond set at $150K (ethical, legal)
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The trouble with this case if that GZ went out of his way to "catch the bad guy" as he did several times in the past. According to some of his neighbors, he circled the neighborhood in his SUV looking for suspicious people. As we've already learned, he once chased a shoplifter out of a supermarket and even followed a driver in hot pursuit.
Wow. I hadn't heard this. Why didn't this guy just apply to join the force if he so desperately wanted to be a hero? Probably couldn't pass the psych exam.
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Originally Posted by justNancy
A teenager like Trayvon Martin might raise some eyebrows walking in my neighborhood after dark. He would stick out like the proverbial sore thumb since it's Whiter here than at the annual Ozark Tea Party convention.
It's interesting how much that makes a difference, isn't it. I live in Baltimore. The poor kid wouldn't have raised an eyebrow.
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Originally Posted by justNancy
However, a normal person would shout out "Hi, may I help you?" and not follow him around in a car and then chase after him. All the people who keep writing that it's legal to follow people aren't wrong, but legal and normal are 2 different things. Maybe he wasn't stalking in legal terms, but he certainly was acting like a predator.
"Prosecutors on Thursday released to defense attorneys hundreds of pages of new evidence in the murder case, including witness statements, nearly a dozen FBI reports and jail records."
Gate communities are organized and do have security because they like it that way. Please explain how I was in error in that statement.
Did I say Katiana lives in a city? No, I am sure that I never said that.
The only security I have ever heard of in GZ's community was the NW program he set up and appointed himself capatian of. Some of the neighbors thought he was too agressive in his approach.
You quoted me and made disaparaging remarks about "city people".
After seeing this place on the news, to me it is only called a "gated community" because of a useless gate located at a couple of entrances. The term is too general. When you live in a gated community where you only need a code to get past the gate, security is a myth.
Not to mention when they do have security guards they are often senior citizens working nights for a few bucks. LOL
The only security I have ever heard of in GZ's community was the NW program he set up and appointed himself capatian of. Some of the neighbors thought he was too agressive in his approach.
You quoted me and made disaparaging remarks about "city people".
My remarks about city people are true in my experience. They seldom know their neighbors, at least more than a quick nod. Don't want to be involved. See nothing , know nothing , say nothing attitudes.
Gated community types swing to the opposite extreme. They want security and tend to act like dogs tied to a tree. This is my yard. We need more rules about how our yards have to look. Rules for what we can do. I am all for zoning laws and deed restrictions. These gated communities take it to a whole new level.
Wow. I hadn't heard this. Why didn't this guy just apply to join the force if he so desperately wanted to be a hero? Probably couldn't pass the psych exam.
It's interesting how much that makes a difference, isn't it. I live in Baltimore. The poor kid wouldn't have raised an eyebrow.
Well put.
Another sad case of believing that everything you read on the internet is true.
It's quite amazing what falls off keyboards. Now Zimm was using his car to chase Sweet Little Trayvon. After all, someone heard something from a FOAF and repeated it on the internet, so it must be true.
Another sad case of believing that everything you read on the internet is true.
It's quite amazing what falls off keyboards. Now Zimm was using his car to chase Sweet Little Trayvon. After all, someone heard something from a FOAF and repeated it on the internet, so it must be true.
Good Grief!
That's what you got from justNancy's post? You may want to read it again. Slower this time for comprehension. You can do it!
lol, I understood the post. Based on your response, you didn't.
The gist is to not believe garbage spewed on the internet. 99% of this thread is internet garbage. Personally, I'm laughing, and definitely not believing.
Let's all repeat internet nonsense, now.....1. 2. 3. GO!
It only matters in a world where people insist that Martin was, by virtue of having been 17 for 3 weeks, a fully functioning adult. As JanND and justNancy have pointed out in this thread, there are many things that an adult can do that a 17 year-old cannot. Nor has Martin turned out to be the "hulking 6'3" thug" that many posters initially described, while Zimmerman isn't the "squeaky clean" hero portrayed by his father. And the thread goes on...
The SYG law does not treat 17 year olds any differently than older individuals. Martin's age is no factor in the case.
There are numerous issues surrounding this case, but the most troublesome one is that if Zimmerman is found not guilty it sets a dangerous precedent. I can basically go up to anyone I want, provoke a confrontation, shoot them dead, and be exonerated by just saying that the other party "started it."
Absolutely, and there are some people who would take advantage of that. It's easy to understand why FL is taking a second look at its SYG law, and other states may do the same. And the other person doesn't have to respond with violence: If two people are unseen by witnesses, the person who uses lethal force can say whatever they want and walk away without repercussions, as Zimmerman did initially. This is, indeed, a dangerous precedent.
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