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People seem to think that it was unreasonable for TM to defend himself from a strange man who was stalking him on his way back home from buying Skittles and iced tea. Trayvon Martin had no idea what GZ's intentions were towards him, so why wouldn't he have tried to fight off GZ in his own self defense?
Indeed. All these years we've been teaching our kids to run from strangers who try to detain them...if we'd only known that they were just heroes like George Zimmerman.
Can you like, help us all out by letting us know where you went to medical school? Because you sure seem to know a lot about what the results of various physical confrontations would be or what injuries should/should not be treated.
On second thought, no, you don't. As anyone who has actually been in a significant fight could tell you.
If Trayvon Martin had repeatedly banged the back of GZ's head on concrete, GZ'z injuries would have been far more substantial than a few scratches. The extent of the injuries would range from hairline fracture(s) to the occipital to a concussion (traumatic brain injury) to a larger skull fracture. The fact that GZ did not require medical treatment speaks volumes to the level of danger that he was in during the altercation.
Also, if GZ's nose was fractured, why did he not follow up treatment with an ENT per the advice of the "family doctor"?
Ok, but I'm trained in the field and I question the wisdom of letting someone who has suffered traumatic head injuries go home without professional medical observation (hospitalization). When anyone goes through what he supposely had, pictures should have been taken and test (xray/labs) should have been done as well. If things happened the way zimmerman claimed he could have possibly suffered from a concussion which could have been life threatening.
The interesting thing will happen when the EMT takes the stand, and I doubt very seriously that he/she will lie to protect zimmerman and lose their EMT license.
No one can force him to get medical attention against his will, unless there is some indication of an altered mental state (level of conciousness). I haven't heard one way or the other if he signed a wavier refusing attention against medical advice or not. When I was with our fire department's first response group we were trained to get such a signoff when a patient refused transport/treatment.
If Trayvon Martin had repeatedly banged the back of GZ's head on concrete, GZ'z injuries would have been far more substantial than a few scratches. The extent of the injuries would range from hairline fracture(s) to the occipital to a concussion (traumatic brain injury) to a larger skull fracture. The fact that GZ did not require medical treatment speaks volumes to the level of danger that he was in during the altercation.
Also, if GZ's nose was fractured, why did he not follow up treatment with an ENT per the advice of the "family doctor"?
Turn your TV on to the news and clean out your ears!!! Things aren't looking good for Trayvon.... They just announced that he had drugs in his system...And it's coming out more that Zimmerman is telling the truth...
All that will not mean a hill of beans if they confirm that zimmerman was at a safe enough distance that he was no longer in danger but shot Trayvon anyway
True, but what's ironic is that some people are quoting Dershowitz, who was a Harvard Law professor and often called the most liberal, leftist attorney on the planet.
Gee, I wonder who else was a Harvard Law Professor and has been called a liberal leftist?
Actually, I admire Alan Dershowitz, but he also said
"On the basis of the evidence currently in the public record, one likely outcome of the case against George Zimmerman is a mixed one: There may be sufficient evidence for a reasonable prosecutor to indict him for manslaughter, but there may also be doubt sufficient for a reasonable jury to acquit him.
Any such predictions should be accepted with an abundance of caution, however, because the evidence known to the special prosecutor, but not to the public, may paint a different picture. It may be stronger or weaker."
Turn your TV on to the news and clean out your ears!!! Things aren't looking good for Trayvon.... They just announced that he had drugs in his system...And it's coming out more that Zimmerman is telling the truth...
Your right...things aren't looking good for Trayvon considering he was gunned down.
Turn your TV on to the news and clean out your ears!!! Things aren't looking good for Trayvon.... They just announced that he had drugs in his system...And it's coming out more that Zimmerman is telling the truth...
First, Trayvon Martin is deceased; this is not a spectator sport.
Second, if that happens to be true, it still does not exonerate George Zimmerman who according to the "family doctor's" medical report was also on psych drugs. GZ was acting in a law enforcment capacity without the authority to do so. Plus, the Sanford Police did not give GZ an alcohol or drug test that night either so we have no idea what (if anything) was in his system.
People seem to think that it was unreasonable for TM to defend himself from a strange man who was stalking him on his way back home from buying Skittles and iced tea. Trayvon Martin had no idea what GZ's intentions were towards him, so why wouldn't he have tried to fight off GZ in his own self defense? And if GZ's gun was visible, then I am sure that TM fought even harder. So GZ's injuries do not back up his claim of self defense. [snip].
The screams were More Likely from gz, but that's one of the unknowns.
If tm was alive and gz dead, maybe tm could use self-defense in a trial.
Your right...things aren't looking good for Trayvon considering he was gunned down.
Amazing! Zimmerman was not tested and could have been drunk or stoned, but the victim's blood is on trial! THC is in marijuana. It wasn't PCP! Marijuana can stay in your blood for a month and it doesn't make a person violent. I guess the fact that Zimmerman was prescribed drugs that could have made him paranoid or aggressive doesn't count, since they're not illegal. What a hypocritical society we live in. Was Trayvon on crack?
I wonder how many reporters are publishing this after they just sat down with a joint?
I am still trying to figure out these "leaks" when there hasn't been a trial. Is this the new justice system? Doesn't a Medical Examiner testify under oath and the prosecution or defense has a right to question him or her on the results? There were many conflicting reports when Casey Anthony was on trial and testimony by experts in the field of forensics disagreed on each other's findings.
Whether someone believes Zimmerman is innocent or guilty, this case should not be tried in the media.
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