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So why deny women access to and funding for birth control and health care coverage? We all know abstainance-only education is a colossal failure. Less birth control = more abortions.
That's the key thing though......and it probably would gain pro lifers more support if they simply spent time trying to push for broader access to BC. Oh the republicans can have their little victories in the next few months, before courts begin to strike the laws down. Idaho doesn't have a texas court and falls under the 9th circuit, so lets see the chance of this law holding up there. And lets see what happens when women turn out in droves this election to vote against the right.
1. your wife might not agree with you, and in the end you might never know if she decided to have one or not.
2. Murder is illegal, abortion is not thus it does not fall under the definition of murder. And plenty of people have responsible sex and have BC failures.
She does we had that discussion before we got married. The ONLY time she would have an abortion is when we both agreed to it and only time that would be is if the baby was mentally or physically handicapped or her life was in danger.
Your opinion. Just because the scum in the robes haven't declared it so murdering a baby is murder plain and simple.
That's the key thing though......and it probably would gain pro lifers more support if they simply spent time trying to push for broader access to BC. Oh the republicans can have their little victories in the next few months, before courts begin to strike the laws down. Idaho doesn't have a texas court and falls under the 9th circuit, so lets see the chance of this law holding up there. And lets see what happens when women turn out in droves this election to vote against the right.
Like I said, I know this much about women: they dislike being told what to do, and they have long memories. Obama's approval among women is already up double digits nationally. That's HUGE in an election where more women than men vote.
1. I am married so I don't need to go around whoring my self out and have no need to worry about getting an abortion. I would welcome more kids
2. It isn't government intrusion when you are trying to commit murder. If you want to be irresponsible then don't have sex.
RPON,
But you've stated in other threads that if the child was mentally or physically defective then you would choose abortion.
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I am not an "abortion supporter" I actually don't like the murder of babies,but there is no point in bringing a child into the world and it having a horrible life its self and you having to take care of it 24/7 I say its responsible to make sure and get an abortion IF there is something wrong which we would have done with either of our kids if something had been wrong.
I can respect that you have your beliefs on the issue, but it seems you're being somewhat selective about what you consider murder.
(Edit: I see you brought this up yourself in post #42 as I was writing this)
Oh yeah, the entire Republican party has made so many attacks on women over the years. It's a wonder any of them are married since they are all such beasts.
This is true.
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Originally Posted by chicagonut
Hope you are wearing your bullet proof vest cause these pro-choicers will insult you personally and twist your words for your stance as a pro-lifer. They don't know how to debate civilly. Take my advice and don't even bother to try and debate with them.
I am not against giving low income folks who have medicaid birth control.Others can afford it.
Fair enough, but the hypocrisy argument won't go away. How can the GOP be anti-Obamacare as government intrusion and then pass far more personally intrusive legislation of the type we're seeing in the states?
She does we had that discussion before we got married. The ONLY time she would have an abortion is when we both agreed to it and only time that would be is if the baby was mentally or physically handicapped or her life was in danger.
Your opinion. Just because the scum in the robes haven't declared it so murdering a baby is murder plain and simple.
If BC is going to be provided for free or a small co-pay for women with insurance then why aren't condoms treated as such for men?
As for abortion being murder on a moral ground. I agree with you.
That's just about it. They want the fun of sex without paying the consquences of getting pregnant and then they want to kill the baby without any guilt. Seeing it fills them with guilt. Good, it should!
So it's the job of the government to make people guilty? You don't know these people or what they are going though and trying to manipulate them is just plain evil.
Murder is illegal, abortion is not thus it does not fall under the definition of murder. And plenty of people have responsible sex and have BC failures.
I agree to an extent. Sadly, many women have multiple abortions and see it as a form of BC in and of itself. These are the despicable ones.
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