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and people in America riot, chant kill all Muslims and then kill people because of it . . . does the president of Afghanistan owe the American people an apology?
Why not?
Americans respect the American flag. They've died for it. It represents our country.
Or maybe . . . just MAYBE . . . the flag like the koran is the piece of paper and maybe . . . just MAYBE the flag is only an idea and ideas can either survive or they can die.
I swear I almost want to wrap a koran and a torah in an American flag with a communion wafer and then drape it in a gay rights flag and then set the whole thing on fire just to burn everyone's sacred cow and be done with it.
A flag isn't quite a religious book. Christians have conducted violent acts in their past when the bible was burned. Afghanistan just isn't as far along culturally as we are. Its not an excuse, its an acknowledgement of reality.
and people in America riot, chant kill all Muslims and then kill people because of it . . . does the president of Afghanistan owe the American people an apology?
Why not?
Americans respect the American flag. They've died for it. It represents our country.
Or maybe . . . just MAYBE . . . the flag like the koran is the piece of paper and maybe . . . just MAYBE the flag is only an idea and ideas can either survive or they can die.
I swear I almost want to wrap a koran and a torah in an American flag with a communion wafer and then drape it in a gay rights flag and then set the whole thing on fire just to burn everyone's sacred cow and be done with it.
That's the thing with being an occupier...you've got no damn business being there in the first place. If you're going to be there, then you've gotta follow their customs. Or you can leave. In fact, that's exactly what we should've done a long time ago.
I'm not getting your analogy. We burned Korans in THEIR country. That's a problem. Hell, it SHOULD be a problem! Why? Because the Afghans say that it's a problem. And that's all you and I need to know.
Yes, we respect the American flag. Yes, it's a symbol of our country. No, troops don't die for it. Anyone that would die for the flag is a fool. You die for what it represents. Big difference.
But even if we burned the flag, why would the Afghans get angry? Hell, i'm American and i don't even get angry. I just look at the culprit like a fool and continue eating my steak. (shrugs shoulders)
and people in America riot, chant kill all Muslims and then kill people because of it . . . does the president of Afghanistan owe the American people an apology?
Why not?
Americans respect the American flag. They've died for it. It represents our country.
Or maybe . . . just MAYBE . . . the flag like the koran is the piece of paper and maybe . . . just MAYBE the flag is only an idea and ideas can either survive or they can die.
I swear I almost want to wrap a koran and a torah in an American flag with a communion wafer and then drape it in a gay rights flag and then set the whole thing on fire just to burn everyone's sacred cow and be done with it.
The President of whatever country doesn't have the luxury of your anger or your justifications here. The President does lead a large number of brave men and women serving and has to act in ways that keep them safe. If that means apologizing, then yes, he has to apologize.
This isn't a grade school argument where someone can choose to not be friends with someone and talk about them behind their back. The military commanders over there apologized as well. They don't want their actions or lack thereof to cause army members to die.
Basically, you have a luxury they don't. I do appreciate the hostility in your posts though. It's great.
and people in America riot, chant kill all Muslims and then kill people because of it . . . does the president of Afghanistan owe the American people an apology?
Why not?
Americans respect the American flag. They've died for it. It represents our country.
Or maybe . . . just MAYBE . . . the flag like the koran is the piece of paper and maybe . . . just MAYBE the flag is only an idea and ideas can either survive or they can die.
I swear I almost want to wrap a koran and a torah in an American flag with a communion wafer and then drape it in a gay rights flag and then set the whole thing on fire just to burn everyone's sacred cow and be done with it.
That's the thing with being an occupier...you've got no damn business being there in the first place. If you're going to be there, then you've gotta follow their customs. Or you can leave. In fact, that's exactly what we should've done a long time ago.
I'm not getting your analogy. We burned Korans in THEIR country. That's a problem. Hell, it SHOULD be a problem! Why? Because the Afghans say that it's a problem. And that's all you and I need to know.
Yes, we respect the American flag. Yes, it's a symbol of our country. No, troops don't die for it. Anyone that would die for the flag is a fool. You die for what it represents. Big difference.
But even if we burned the flag, why would the Afghans get angry? Hell, i'm American and i don't even get angry. I just look at the culprit like a fool and continue eating my steak. (shrugs shoulders)
They have no business sheltering people who attack our country. They're behaving like backwards morons. Why isn't that a problem?
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Originally Posted by noexcuseforignorance
The President of whatever country doesn't have the luxury of your anger or your justifications here. The President does lead a large number of brave men and women serving and has to act in ways that keep them safe. If that means apologizing, then yes, he has to apologize.
This isn't a grade school argument where someone can choose to not be friends with someone and talk about them behind their back. The military commanders over there apologized as well. They don't want their actions or lack thereof to cause army members to die.
Basically, you have a luxury they don't. I do appreciate the hostility in your posts though. It's great.
The people who cause people who die are those who act like barbarians. Acting as if you have the right to murder people because someone burned a book is like blaming a rape victim because you don't like how she was dressed.
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Originally Posted by TigerLily24
Wow.
This is really personal for you, huh?
Yeah well call for my death and I tend to take it personally. Especially when the guy I elected APOLOGIZED to those who did!
The crowd chanted anti-American slogans, including “death to Americans,†“death to Obama,†and “death to Jews.â€
Obama should stand up for Americans and for Jews and for Jewish Americans not bow and scrape to those who call for our literal murder.
One can only imagine the screeching by many leftists had a group of Americans in Oklahoma literally marched around demanding that Muslims drop dead . . .
and people in America riot, chant kill all Muslims and then kill people because of it . . . does the president of Afghanistan owe the American people an apology?
Why not?
Americans respect the American flag. They've died for it. It represents our country.
Or maybe . . . just MAYBE . . . the flag like the koran is the piece of paper and maybe . . . just MAYBE the flag is only an idea and ideas can either survive or they can die.
I swear I almost want to wrap a koran and a torah in an American flag with a communion wafer and then drape it in a gay rights flag and then set the whole thing on fire just to burn everyone's sacred cow and be done with it.
It never ceases to amaze me how people who supposedly think they're being intelligent by introducing an analogy fail to see obvious, fundamental differences between their hypothetical example and the reality that they're supposedly comparing it to. What level of formal education did you complete, if I may ask?
You're trying to compare one act of flag burning as though the action your comparing it to has absolutely no background whatsoever -- as though it just happened out of chance in some sort of political vacuum.
Let's not forget something about a 10 year occupation in which thousands of Afghans have paid with their lives. Let's not also forget that this period was preceded by 10 years of anarchy, following a previous foreign occupation. Afghanistan was at once a relatively stable, if not fragile, Central Asian collection of tribes. Now we weren't the ones to necessarily mess it up in the first place, but to suggest that the hypothetical and the example you're citing are comparable is just nonsense.
and people in America riot, chant kill all Muslims and then kill people because of it . . . does the president of Afghanistan owe the American people an apology?
Why not?
Americans respect the American flag. They've died for it. It represents our country.
Or maybe . . . just MAYBE . . . the flag like the koran is the piece of paper and maybe . . . just MAYBE the flag is only an idea and ideas can either survive or they can die.
I swear I almost want to wrap a koran and a torah in an American flag with a communion wafer and then drape it in a gay rights flag and then set the whole thing on fire just to burn everyone's sacred cow and be done with it.
How about wrapping it in an afghanistani flag?
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