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"Anyone who is not a liberal while young has no heart and anyone who is not a conservative when older has no brain"
I disagree with the right-wing misconception of the quote, thinking you become conservative with age and wisdom.
In reality, younger people change the world as they see fit, as you get older, it breaks your heart to see the next generations change the world as they see fit, making you feel like you have no place in it anymore. This causes you to want to preserve some of the ways in which you made the world.
This is what it means, not the silly idea right-wingers have of the quote.
Its a cute and clever statement by a great political mind but it is just a catch phrase. First of all, in the time of Churchill liberal and conservative ideals were much simpler to define.... and he was talking more to the British political system. Americans have bastardized the definitions of "liberal" and "conservative"... it is much more complex than a catch phrase.
That statement says more about charity versus pragmatism. I just think the world is much more complex than putting those two words against each other. We can have charitable conservatives and pragmatic liberals... we can also have selfish liberals and reckless conservatives.
"Anyone who is not a liberal while young has no heart and anyone who is not a conservative when older has no brain"
I disagree with the right-wing misconception of the quote, thinking you become conservative with age and wisdom.
In reality, younger people change the world as they see fit, as you get older, it breaks your heart to see the next generations change the world as they see fit, making you feel like you have no place in it anymore. This causes you to want to preserve some of the ways in which you made the world.
This is what it means, not the silly idea right-wingers have of the quote.
Its a cute and clever statement by a great political mind but it is just a catch phrase. First of all, in the time of Churchill liberal and conservative ideals were much simpler to define.... and he was talking more to the British political system. Americans have bastardized the definitions of "liberal" and "conservative"... it is much more complex than a catch phrase.
That statement says more about charity versus pragmatism. I just think the world is much more complex than putting those two words against each other. We can have charitable conservatives and pragmatic liberals... we can also have selfish liberals and reckless conservatives.
Normal people do become more conservative with age and wisdom. Pragmatism is conservative trait, and not something that is associated with liberals. Liberals are idealists, the antonym of a pragmatist. Liberals begin their sentences with "I feel...", whereas conservatives begin their sentences with "I think..." Liberals are entirely emotion driven, devoid of any logic or reason. Conservatives are logic and reason driven.
Liberalism is a mental disease where only the very young and immature can indulge.
Normal people do become more conservative with age and wisdom. Pragmatism is conservative trait, and not something that is associated with liberals. Liberals are idealists, the antonym of a pragmatist. Liberals begin their sentences with "I feel...", whereas conservatives begin their sentences with "I think..." Liberals are entirely emotion driven, devoid of any logic or reason. Conservatives are logic and reason driven.
Liberalism is a mental disease where only the very young and immature can indulge.
The liberal policies of today will be the accepted standard policies of the future. That has been the history of our country and most developed countries. Most liberals of today will probably become more moderate as they lose their enthusiasm, become more set in their ways and decline in their ability to envision a better future.
you actually have it backwards. Educated people tend to be Liberals while uneducated people tend to be conservatives.
There are plenty of conservatives, of several ages, who prove they have insufficient brains. Some of them in Congress (Jim DeMint, Steve King, Michelle Bachman), some of them Governors (Sarah Palin, Rick Perry, Mark Sanford), some of them on the airwaves (Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Michael Savage).
I also find it funny how Conservatives always claim that artists are liberal because they think with emotion but scientists are as close to reality as you can get? also, conservatives think with fear which is an emotion. It seems they fear everything 24/7.
Because they understand that reality is best understood by respecting and learning from evidence. They make their decisions based upon facts, not propaganda.
"Anyone who is not a liberal while young has no heart and anyone who is not a conservative when older has no brain"
I disagree with the right-wing misconception of the quote, thinking you become conservative with age and wisdom.
In reality, younger people change the world as they see fit, as you get older, it breaks your heart to see the next generations change the world as they see fit, making you feel like you have no place in it anymore. This causes you to want to preserve some of the ways in which you made the world.
This is what it means, not the silly idea right-wingers have of the quote.
Its a cute and clever statement by a great political mind but it is just a catch phrase. First of all, in the time of Churchill liberal and conservative ideals were much simpler to define.... and he was talking more to the British political system. Americans have bastardized the definitions of "liberal" and "conservative"... it is much more complex than a catch phrase.
That statement says more about charity versus pragmatism. I just think the world is much more complex than putting those two words against each other. We can have charitable conservatives and pragmatic liberals... we can also have selfish liberals and reckless conservatives.
What is amusing is that US conservatives believe Sir Winstone Churchill made the statement that if one is not a liberal at twenty one has no heart and if one is not a conservative at thirty five one has no brain.
When Sir Winstone was thirty five he was in the Liberal party and his wife was a liberal all her life.
What is amusing is that US conservatives believe Sir Winstone Churchill made the statement that if one is not a liberal at twenty one has no heart and if one is not a conservative at thirty five one has no brain.
When Sir Winstone was thirty five he was in the Liberal party and his wife was a liberal all her life.
"Anyone who is not a liberal while young has no heart and anyone who is not a conservative when older has no brain"
i like the quote. i think it applied to a different era. i don't think the Republicans are the right kind of conservative, and i don't think the democrats are the right kind of liberal. both of them suck.
What is amusing is that US conservatives believe Sir Winstone Churchill made the statement that if one is not a liberal at twenty one has no heart and if one is not a conservative at thirty five one has no brain.
When Sir Winstone was thirty five he was in the Liberal party and his wife was a liberal all her life.
Their idea of liberal is different from ours. Over there they use the word in the classic sense, not in the debased sense we use over here. That quote has been attributed to about a dozen people.
The liberal policies of today will be the accepted standard policies of the future. That has been the history of our country and most developed countries. Most liberals of today will probably become more moderate as they lose their enthusiasm, become more set in their ways and decline in their ability to envision a better future.
you actually have it backwards. Educated people tend to be Liberals while uneducated people tend to be conservatives.
There are plenty of conservatives, of several ages, who prove they have insufficient brains. Some of them in Congress (Jim DeMint, Steve King, Michelle Bachman), some of them Governors (Sarah Palin, Rick Perry, Mark Sanford), some of them on the airwaves (Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Michael Savage).
I also find it funny how Conservatives always claim that artists are liberal because they think with emotion but scientists are as close to reality as you can get? also, conservatives think with fear which is an emotion. It seems they fear everything 24/7.
Because they understand that reality is best understood by respecting and learning from evidence. They make their decisions based upon facts, not propaganda.
I realize that is what your "feelings" tell you, but reason dictates that the liberal policies of today will become tomorrows failures, as the fall of socialist Europe demonstrates.
Artists are not all liberal, nor do liberals have a monopoly on creativity. Liberal scientists, on the otherhand, when they get a result that does not "feel" right, they willing commit fraud and alter the data to suit their liberal agenda. Science be damned.
Conservatives do not "think with fear," which is an oxymoron, and makes absolutely no sense. As you said, "fear" is an emotion, therefore it is in the realm of the liberal mentality. As in "the GOP want to take away your MediCare," or "the GOP want to starve your grandmother and throw her into the street." That is classic liberal fear-mongering.
Because they understand that reality is best understood by respecting and learning from evidence. They make their decisions based upon facts, not propaganda.
Like the Loughner shooting? Where Sarah Palin and all conservatives were somehow blamed even though there was zero evidence for that blame?
Their idea of liberal is different from ours. Over there they use the word in the classic sense, not in the debased sense we use over here. That quote has been attributed to about a dozen people.
True we Commonwealth realms tend to use liberal in it's classic sense.
Example, the more conservative party on finance in Australia is the Liberal party.
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