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Old 02-17-2012, 08:54 PM
 
Location: Wasilla, Alaska
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That's because what is considered liberal today will be the conservative view tomorrow. The problem though is that conservatives today are stuck in a conservative view who's expiration date is long past due.
What was liberal yesterday is still liberal today. No matter how you spin it, FDR's New Deal programs were a socialist attempt to give government control over the economy. That includes Socialist Security, which now accounts for the largest single item in the federal budget.

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Hehehe. NO, liberals start with "I think" conservatives start with "Gawd (or The Babble) told me".
If you begin your sentences with "I think..." then you cannot be liberal. Liberals do not think, they emote.

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ROFL! Ehh no. Especially considering just about all fundie Christians, evangelicals and young earth creationists are conservatives. ZERO reason or logic to be found in any of those.
All the fundamentalists and evangelicals combined only account for about 10% of the GOP. There are also fundamentalists and evangelicals in the Democrat Party, but they are not allowed a voice in the party of "tolerance."

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This country was founded by the mentally ill?
This country was founded by true "liberals" in the classic definition of the word, which today's pretenders are not. Democrats got tired of being branded for the socialists they are, so they rewrote the definition of "liberal" to try to hide their true agenda. Today a "liberal" is a misnomer, and would be the enemy of our true liberal founding fathers.

After 50 years of distorting the meaning of "liberal" from its classic definition, Democrats have come to realize that nobody is fooled any longer. So they once again rewrote the definition of "progressive" even though they have nothing in common with the original Progressive Party (which were all former Republicans).

Democrats choose one oxymoron after another to label themselves something they are not, but they are only fooling themselves. Anyone with a modicum of intelligence knows that Democrats are, and always have been, the greatest enemy this nation has ever faced.
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Old 02-17-2012, 09:23 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles, California
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What was liberal yesterday is still liberal today. No matter how you spin it, FDR's New Deal programs were a socialist attempt to give government control over the economy. That includes Socialist Security, which now accounts for the largest single item in the federal budget.



If you begin your sentences with "I think..." then you cannot be liberal. Liberals do not think, they emote.



All the fundamentalists and evangelicals combined only account for about 10% of the GOP. There are also fundamentalists and evangelicals in the Democrat Party, but they are not allowed a voice in the party of "tolerance."



This country was founded by true "liberals" in the classic definition of the word, which today's pretenders are not. Democrats got tired of being branded for the socialists they are, so they rewrote the definition of "liberal" to try to hide their true agenda. Today a "liberal" is a misnomer, and would be the enemy of our true liberal founding fathers.

After 50 years of distorting the meaning of "liberal" from its classic definition, Democrats have come to realize that nobody is fooled any longer. So they once again rewrote the definition of "progressive" even though they have nothing in common with the original Progressive Party (which were all former Republicans).

Democrats choose one oxymoron after another to label themselves something they are not, but they are only fooling themselves. Anyone with a modicum of intelligence knows that Democrats are, and always have been, the greatest enemy this nation has ever faced.
*reads through the statement and realizes it's just pointing out the faults of one political party without pointing out the faults of their own*

*reads a bit further and reads that people who consider themselves Democrats today are supposed enemies of our founding fathers*

The...the...THE....THE SHEER IGNORANCE IN THIS POST!

IT'S ENOUGH...TO...TO....TO...!

TO MAKE ME GO...!

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Old 02-17-2012, 09:25 PM
 
Location: Wasilla, Alaska
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I always laugh when people say the "fall of socialist Europe" yeah because Capitalist America's economy is wonderful with a plethora of jobs!
The US has been a socialist nation since 1989. That was the year socialist federal spending exceeded all other federal spending. When more than 50% of a nation's budget is allocated to socialist programs, then that nation is by definition socialist. Currently the US spends 56% of the federal budget on socialist programs.

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Most artists are liberal...ever wonder why conservatives claim Hollywood is liberal?
"Most" is a good qualifier. The reason Hollywood is so liberal is because of blacklisting and intolerance. You know, exactly the opposite of actually being liberal.

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I posted the following in another thread a while back but it applies here as well...
he essence of liberalism is empathy and imagination. They construct a world that does not exist and take steps to bring it into existence. This is highly sophisticated ideation confined only — so far as we know — to humans.
I will give you empathy, since that is an emotion and liberals are entirely emotion driven. However, imagination is not something liberals have a monopoly on either. There are imaginative liberals and conservatives. Liberals also do not "construct" anything. They only destroy.

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The essence of conservatism is to attempt either to impede liberals in their efforts to change the future...
As much as humanly possible, true. The liberal idea of the future is to reduce the US (which they vehemently abhor) to third world nation status.

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...or actually return to some (always absurdly misunderstood) past state.
That is your liberal brainwashing kicking in. There is no conservative that wants to return to a past state. However, all conservatives want a constitutional form of government instead of the anarchy and destruction the liberals desire.

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The intelligence required to say, “Let’s all go back to 1955″ is less than the intelligence required to say “Let’s envision a world that does not now exist, but could, and let’s make that happen.â€
I disagree. It takes a truly simple liberal mind to concoct something that does not exist and then pretend it is even remotely possible to make it happen because it "feels" right. It takes a rational, conservative, mind to imagine something that is both possible and viable.

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The core of conservatism can be seen in an ant colony: let’s make the same ant heap again and again and again . . .
The core of liberalism can be seen at the bottom of every septic tank. It is both slimy and vile.

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There’s a reason why “creatives†are overwhelmingly liberal.
That is a nice myth, and I am sure it makes you "feel" self-important to believe that, but you are delusional. It is not your fault that you were born mentality defective.

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Creatives — artists, directors, designers, writers — spend their days creating not re-creating, inventing not pining for the good old days. That takes more horsepower. Sorry, conservative engineers and number crunchers, it does.

The conservative mind is more likely to require a supervising father figure: God. The liberal mind is more likely to be self-sufficient, probably because what the liberal mind is doing is not an attempt at faithful maintenance of the status quo but a revolutionary reassessment. A creative doesn’t need a god because he thinks he is one.

Liberals create the world that conservatives then defend. There are going to be IQ differences between creators and defenders.
Your obvious bigotry demonstrates your mental deficiency for everyone to see. The last thing liberals can claim is "self-sufficiency." There is no more dependent parasite on the planet than a liberal freak.

Here is a classic example of your "self-sufficient" mental giant liberal.

OBAMA'S GONNA PAY FOR MY GAS... - YouTube
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Old 02-17-2012, 09:42 PM
 
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The ignorance of your post is just...just...so...ANNOYING.

Have a looksie:


Celluloid and Censorship: McCarthy and Hollywood Part 2.wmv - YouTube

and speaking of bigotry:

westboro baptist church protests - YouTube

saying all Democrats are Communists is like me saying all Republicans are Fascists

Another study released recently connects low intelligence, conservative viewpoints, and racism. (Gordon Hodson, Brock University, Ontario.) When you couple that up with the findings in this study, it shows that people who are conservati*ve (i.e., low intelligence, and racist tendencies*) also tend to react more emotively to their environment. So there actually is some data which supports the allegation made by many progressives that conservatives tend to less intelligent, more likely to be racist, and reactionary. So there you go -- the less able are calling the shots. It's little wonder that the more able are completely frustrated with them.

http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/...in-study-finds

http://news.yahoo.com/low-iq-conserv...180403506.html

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Old 02-17-2012, 09:45 PM
 
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You really have to get out of your mother's basement and quite smoking the crap!
yeah okay, I'll QUIT smoking.

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Old 02-17-2012, 10:12 PM
 
Location: Fort Worth, TX
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"Anyone who is not a liberal while young has no heart and anyone who is not a conservative when older has no brain"

I disagree with the right-wing misconception of the quote, thinking you become conservative with age and wisdom.
In reality, younger people change the world as they see fit, as you get older, it breaks your heart to see the next generations change the world as they see fit, making you feel like you have no place in it anymore. This causes you to want to preserve some of the ways in which you made the world.
This is what it means, not the silly idea right-wingers have of the quote.

Its a cute and clever statement by a great political mind but it is just a catch phrase. First of all, in the time of Churchill liberal and conservative ideals were much simpler to define.... and he was talking more to the British political system. Americans have bastardized the definitions of "liberal" and "conservative"... it is much more complex than a catch phrase.

That statement says more about charity versus pragmatism. I just think the world is much more complex than putting those two words against each other. We can have charitable conservatives and pragmatic liberals... we can also have selfish liberals and reckless conservatives.
I agree, but in general I think young folks are more idealistic which is why a lot of them identify towards more progressive or libertarian stances. As you get older you get a little more jaded and perhaps a little more "realistic" and start supporting more conservative or traditional (while still being liberal) ideas.
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Old 02-17-2012, 10:21 PM
 
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The liberal policies of today will be the accepted standard policies of the future. That has been the history of our country and most developed countries. Most liberals of today will probably become more moderate as they lose their enthusiasm, become more set in their ways and decline in their ability to envision a better future.

you actually have it backwards. Educated people tend to be Liberals while uneducated people tend to be conservatives.

There are plenty of conservatives, of several ages, who prove they have insufficient brains. Some of them in Congress (Jim DeMint, Steve King, Michelle Bachman), some of them Governors (Sarah Palin, Rick Perry, Mark Sanford), some of them on the airwaves (Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Michael Savage).

I also find it funny how Conservatives always claim that artists are liberal because they think with emotion but scientists are as close to reality as you can get? also, conservatives think with fear which is an emotion. It seems they fear everything 24/7.

Because they understand that reality is best understood by respecting and learning from evidence. They make their decisions based upon facts, not propaganda.
Like when the left put out an ad showing conservatives throwing a grandmother off of a cliff?
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Old 02-17-2012, 10:23 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles, California
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The US has been a socialist nation since 1989. That was the year socialist federal spending exceeded all other federal spending. When more than 50% of a nation's budget is allocated to socialist programs, then that nation is by definition socialist. Currently the US spends 56% of the federal budget on socialist programs.

"Most" is a good qualifier. The reason Hollywood is so liberal is because of blacklisting and intolerance. You know, exactly the opposite of actually being liberal.

I will give you empathy, since that is an emotion and liberals are entirely emotion driven. However, imagination is not something liberals have a monopoly on either. There are imaginative liberals and conservatives. Liberals also do not "construct" anything. They only destroy.

As much as humanly possible, true. The liberal idea of the future is to reduce the US (which they vehemently abhor) to third world nation status.

That is your liberal brainwashing kicking in. There is no conservative that wants to return to a past state. However, all conservatives want a constitutional form of government instead of the anarchy and destruction the liberals desire.

I disagree. It takes a truly simple liberal mind to concoct something that does not exist and then pretend it is even remotely possible to make it happen because it "feels" right. It takes a rational, conservative, mind to imagine something that is both possible and viable.

The core of liberalism can be seen at the bottom of every septic tank. It is both slimy and vile.

That is a nice myth, and I am sure it makes you "feel" self-important to believe that, but you are delusional. It is not your fault that you were born mentality defective.

Your obvious bigotry demonstrates your mental deficiency for everyone to see. The last thing liberals can claim is "self-sufficiency." There is no more dependent parasite on the planet than a liberal freak.
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Y-you're...y-y-you're...hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha! You're just too funny!

Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

I can hardly contain myself! It's funny, really! *wipes tears of laughter from eyes* That you and like-minded people like you have belittled, demonized, and condescended the liberals yet you're no better than they! And that's the funny part!

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You scathingly throw this terms and insults at your so-called adversaries but you refuse to acknowledge the faults of the very group you align yourself with!

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You're laughable at best, and apologetically pathetic at worst! Ahahahahahahahahaha.

O-oh man! Here, here. I'll let my friend carry on for me, Glitch.

Kristoph?

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Old 02-17-2012, 10:29 PM
 
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I agree, but in general I think young folks are more idealistic which is why a lot of them identify towards more progressive or libertarian stances. As you get older you get a little more jaded and perhaps a little more "realistic" and start supporting more conservative or traditional (while still being liberal) ideas.
when you get older, you know death is knocking on your door haha no but seriously, I think when you get older politics aren't as important anymore because you have so much more going on...
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Old 02-18-2012, 11:13 AM
 
Location: Wasilla, Alaska
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The ignorance of your post is just...just...so...ANNOYING.

Have a looksie:


Celluloid and Censorship: McCarthy and Hollywood Part 2.wmv - YouTube
Speaking of ignorance. No matter how you try to revise history, Joseph McCarthy was a US Senator, and all the censorship, blacklisting, and other violations of the First Amendment originated in the US House with the House Un-American Activities Committee, which was under Democrat control.

I case you were not aware, US Senators have no say on the activities of the US House.

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and speaking of bigotry:

westboro baptist church protests - YouTube

saying all Democrats are Communists is like me saying all Republicans are Fascists
The Westboro Baptists are a good example of both bigotry and religious zealotry. I never said all Democrats were communists. I said Democrats vehemently abhor the US and have always wanted to see it destroyed. Many Democrats embrace communism for that purpose, but many also have other means to achieve the same goal.

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Another study released recently connects low intelligence, conservative viewpoints, and racism. (Gordon Hodson, Brock University, Ontario.) When you couple that up with the findings in this study, it shows that people who are conservati*ve (i.e., low intelligence, and racist tendencies*) also tend to react more emotively to their environment. So there actually is some data which supports the allegation made by many progressives that conservatives tend to less intelligent, more likely to be racist, and reactionary. So there you go -- the less able are calling the shots. It's little wonder that the more able are completely frustrated with them.

Conservatives Big on Fear, Brain Study Finds | Psychology Today

Low IQ & Conservative Beliefs Linked to Prejudice - Yahoo! News
Liberal freaks developing a study for the consumption of other liberal freaks is suppose to impress someone? I can show you dozens of studies that conclude liberalism to be a mental disease. The good news is that since we have mapped the entire human genome we can eventually find the obvious defect and develop a cure.

So do not give up hope, you can be cured eventually.
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