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Old 01-11-2012, 02:17 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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I guess you NEVER heard of the term Pro Forma. I think you need to contact Harry Reid, you know the dem Senate Majority Leader. HE is the one who came up with Senate procedure.
There's no need for Pro Forma obligation unless the Congress is in recess. W Bush may not have known that, Harry Reid did. He also knew that Bush didn't and took advantage of it.
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Old 01-11-2012, 02:18 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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Obama shreds the constitution for his own agenda once again. Is anyone really surprised?

Obama’s recess appointments are unconstitutional - The Washington Post
That, Rick, is the best thing I have seen since Obama did his unconsitutional actions. It must have slipped past some editors at the WAPO although it is filled with truth.

I hope some of the lefties that have already replied in this thread have read this but doubt that many, if any, will. I especially liked these so very truthful words from it.

President Obama is not the first to abuse the recess appointment power. Theodore Roosevelt did as well, but for almost 90 years the executive branch has generally agreed that a recess as recognized by the Senate of at least nine to 10 days is necessary before the president can fill any vacancies with a recess appointment.

Glenn Beck and I would be very glad to point at the two men mentioned in that paragraph, Teddy Roosevelt and Barack Obama because they are both very progressive in thinking.
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Old 01-11-2012, 02:19 PM
 
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I agree with you 100% the republicans want the precedent
And I can't wait to here the dems whine and cry like little babies as they have done before when THEY have done something then when they have the majority then when they don't have the majority complain when the repubs do the same thing.
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Old 01-11-2012, 02:20 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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Every president has made recess appointments, including George Washington. Where are your screams about them being unconstitutional?

Bush appointed William Pryor, Charles Pickering, John Bolton, Sam Fox, Susan Dudley, and Andrew G. Biggs....where are your screams about Bush acting in a unconstitutional manner? Not a peep then, and not a peep now.

Oh yeah, because Obama was the only black one out of all of them. People already get the hatred, this is old news.
Make sure that you don't read the link that the OP provided. You might learn something if you did and heaven forbid that will happen.
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Old 01-11-2012, 02:23 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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One cannot have too many threads about this topic!

Anyway, the title is incorrect: if the Senate was truly 'in recess', then the appointments were consitutional.

The title should be: Obama's non-recess appointments are uncontitutional.
But Obama declared the Senate to be in recess so he must have believed that they were in recess. I understand your problem here but after reading the link I was convinced that the WAPO title, which was the same, was right. Too much was pointed out about why it was unconstitutional activity on his part.
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Old 01-11-2012, 02:25 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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Yes, a 30 second pro-forma session earlier in the day is "in session."

Those straws you are grasping at are mighty thin.
Do you really not know about Dirty Harry's use of that very thing back before he became the Majority Floor Leader? Were you even around back then?

Really you need to read this article just so you can see some things that they don't provide on Kos or at MM.
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Old 01-11-2012, 02:26 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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But Obama declared the Senate to be in recess so he must have believed that they were in recess. I understand your problem here but after reading the link I was convinced that the WAPO title, which was the same, was right. Too much was pointed out about why it was unconstitutional activity on his part.
First of all, there is no need for pro forma sessions if the congress is NOT in recess. But more importantly, are you aware WHY pro forma obligation was put in place?
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Old 01-11-2012, 02:27 PM
 
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Bushes appointments happened at a 3 month summer recess. The congress was not in recess when Obama did it.Bush constitutional Obama not
Those who seem to get all their info about that action by Obama from MSNBC, Kos, and MM will never realize the difference in recess by the Congress and the ones that Obama declares for them.
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Old 01-11-2012, 02:28 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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So if you don't like some one, then it is okay to change the rules and distort facts in order to get your way?

That doesn't seem just, and seems like what a person with very little integrity would do.

If you believe all those things, do two wrongs really make a right now?
You need to read the link in the OP and then make all your loud accusations etc. Obviously you didn't read it.
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Old 01-11-2012, 02:29 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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Those who seem to get all their info about that action by Obama from MSNBC, Kos, and MM will never realize the difference in recess by the Congress and the ones that Obama declares for them.
Roy, don't assume so because you've a limited supply of sources that you don't shy away from trumpeting... The Blaze for example. Why not just quote directly from the US Constitution and discuss it here? Or, is that simply not your style?
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