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False premise, even the poorest of the poor pay taxes of some type, gas taxes, sales taxes, property taxes, income taxes at all levels, FICA, and on and on.
You don't know the facts. They don't pay anywhere near enough, and must be HEAVILY subsidized by everyone else (mostly by the top 1%).
Two statistical facts for you...
Including all taxes - federal, state, and local - the bottom 20% (1/5th of the U.S. population! ) received $8.21 in federal, state, and local government spending for every dollar of taxes paid.
For only federal taxes (including payroll taxes) the bottom 20% received a whopping $14.76 in federal government spending for every dollar of federal taxes paid.
As it is, those who pay no federal income tax whatsoever are now the majority at 51%. Only 49% of income earners pay any federal income tax. Only 49% support 100% of the country.
There'll come a tipping point at which there will not be enough money to support the exponentially increasing welfare-dependent population.
So you want the retirees & disabled (who make up over half of those who don't pay federal income tax) to get a job so they can pay income tax?
Some of the deductions that the "they" get, also go to everybody else (like for children/child care etc), so go ahead and take it from them, and your tax will go up to.
Let's take all deductions away from everybody (including corporations), and see who cries the most. The poor are already poor, and have very little to loose.
. And what's the point? I guess that number includes the unemployed, you hate them? Veterans receiving heath care benefits or pensions, you hate veterans? The disabled, hate them? Aid to dependant children, you hate kids?
The number includes those who receive what it says: food stamps, subsidized housing, cash welfare or Medicaid. It does not say veterans benefits, pensions, disability, etc.
Not sure why you're trying to deceptively change the facts. Do you have an agenda that requires you to lie to try to get your point across?
So you want the retirees & disabled (who make up over half of those who don't pay federal income tax) to get a job so they can pay income tax?
Your numbers are off. 16% is not 50% of 51.
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Some of the deductions that the "they" get, also go to everybody else (like for children/child care etc), so go ahead and take it from them, and your tax will go up to.
No. Those are phased out at higher income levels. High income earners already don't get those tax breaks.
18-30 year olds- Most young people are liberals but once they turn around 30 they tend to get more conservative. Something about working day in and day out while others loaf around will do that to a person.
Blacks- Historically they were locked out of capitalist enterprises due to race. Many firmly believe the deck is stacked against them now, so socialism is the only way they see of being able to get their fair share.
Also many simply do not possess the skills to compete in a 21st century economy.
Liberal-Democrats- Well they wouldn't be called liberals if they didn't support some level of socialism.
The worst part of what I bolded from your post is that the word liberal has always been played as progressive and today most progressives, who are about 100% socialistic, are the ones that get liberals called dirty names. There is a considerable difference in a liberal and a progressive in that the liberal may reside a bit left of center he isn't as willing to have extreme socialism. The real problem is that the progressives have taken over the Democrat Party and that really hurts Democrat thinking.
Let's take all deductions away from everybody (including corporations), and see who cries the most. The poor are already poor, and have very little to loose.
I don't think this is surprising. After the capitalistic system imploded in the 1920s, there was a similar response. People want more security than laissez faire capitalism provides. And why not. We are the wealthiest country in the world, and still many people cannot get affordable health care or higher education. The rich get richer, they buy more influence, and get rich still, then they realize that to lower their taxes more, they need to dissemble social programs, so they pay for propaganda to tell citizens that caring for each other is destroing the country. Eventually the people see through the deceit, and take their country back.
I think this capitalist to socialist to capitalist cycle will perpetuate itself, because neither system by itself is sustainable over the long haul. The Reagan Revolution was probably sensible after 40 years of socialist type rule by the Dems. We are approaching the point where a swing back to the left makes just as much sense. The right has been in power too long, with the same ideas, which are incomplete.
I don't think this is surprising. After the capitalistic system imploded in the 1920s, there was a similar response. People want more security than laissez faire capitalism provides. And why not. We are the wealthiest country in the world, and still many people cannot get affordable health care or higher education. The rich get richer, they buy more influence, and get rich still, then they realize that to lower their taxes more, they need to dissemble social programs, so they pay for propaganda to tell citizens that caring for each other is destroing the country.
You mean like Greece?
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"Greece used to have an extensive public health care system that pretty much ensured that everybody was covered for everything. But in the last two years, the nation’s creditors have pushed hard for dramatic cost savings to cut back the deficit. These measures are taking a brutal toll on the system and on the country’s growing numbers of poor and unemployed who cannot afford the new fees and co-payments instituted at public hospitals as part of the far-reaching austerity drive.
At public hospitals, doctors report shortages of all kinds of supplies, from toilet paper to catheters to syringes. Computerized equipment has gone unrepaired and is no longer in use. Nurses are handling four times the patients they should, and wait times for operations — even cancer surgeries — have grown longer."
Obama wants another trillion more money to pay the debts. This country is about 7 years behind in their bills . 2 trillion is taken in every year and from the tax base and 3 1/2 trillion is spent every year. Plus the interest on that debt keeps growing. America is bankrupt. Every man , women and child in America now owes 50 thousand dollars each as it stands now.
The worst part of what I bolded from your post is that the word liberal has always been played as progressive and today most progressives, who are about 100% socialistic, are the ones that get liberals called dirty names. There is a considerable difference in a liberal and a progressive in that the liberal may reside a bit left of center he isn't as willing to have extreme socialism. The real problem is that the progressives have taken over the Democrat Party and that really hurts Democrat thinking.
Where on earth did you get the idea that all progressives are 100% socialist? FDR and Roosevelt were progressives. The progressive Democrats in Ireland are center right. While progressives may support certain socialistic concepts like universal healthcare, progressives aren't all in favor of pure socialism.
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) received $8.21 in federal, state, and local government spending for every dollar of taxes paid. 
