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I guess you have never left the country? Because guess what? The US government cannot issue a visa to visit a foreign country.
You know. Like Pakistan.
The US Government would never have any record of anybody ever getting a Pakistani visa. So your question here is patently meaningless.
There was a travel advisory but not a ban, and the privacy act protects Obama from having to divulge any information on his travel from Indonesia to Pakistan. So, it's a dead issue. More secrets he gets to keep to himself.
There was a travel advisory but not a ban, and the privacy act protects Obama from having to divulge any information on his travel from Indonesia to Pakistan.
Yep. No travel ban. Not even a travel warning. Just another Birther lie that never dies.
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So, it's a dead issue.
It was never a live one. Just like all the other imaginary Birther "issues."
There was a travel advisory but not a ban, and the privacy act protects Obama from having to divulge any information on his travel from Indonesia to Pakistan. So, it's a dead issue.
Have the taxpayers spent more money on this stuff than they have on Michelle and daughters going on vacations?
Apples and oranges.Tax payers spend money on all members of all presidents' families so that's a none issue. These ridiculous birther lawsuits are unnecessary and futile. After losing 90 legal cases why do you still have hope of you birthers winning one?
You are claiming that SCOTUS said that. You are claiming that the SCOTUS passage I quoted from Wong Kim Ark only talks about natural born British subjects. So now you are stuck with the idiotic implication that must obtain if what you said was true.
A child of Spanish citizens born in Massachusetts in 1820 would, according to your interpretation of Wong Kim Ark, be natural born British subjects.
That's pretty dense even for you, HD.
SCOTUS specifically said "born in England." Anyone born in England is a natural born subject. Your example makes NO sense. Which is NOT surprising, at all.
I don't have much time to waste on you today, HD. Suffice it to say that both you and Maskell rely on the same completely dishonest tactic to support your position. You and he insist that SCOTUS didn't really mean what they actually said, they meant something completely different just because you say so.
SCOTUS specifically said "born in England." Anyone born in England is a natural born subject.
Yes they did. And they then go on to say that "The same rule was in force in all the English Colonies upon this continent down to the time of the Declaration of Independence, and in the United States afterwards, and continued to prevail under the Constitution as originally established."
So, explain to us exactly how someone can be "born in England" and "in the United States" at the same time? Bilocation is (as far as I can tell) pretty much exclusive to Roman Catholic saints and mystics... not your average natural born British subject.
So let's review, shall we? You insist that the passage from Wong Kim Ark refers only to natural born British subjects and not natural born US citizens. If you are correct then applying "(t)he same rule ... in the United States afterwards... under the Constitution as originally established" can only mean that the children of any and all aliens (to include those from Spanish parents) born "in the United States" would be natural born British subjects.
It is a proposition so transcendantly idiotic that only a Birther could hold it, and no court in the history of the universe appears to have ever agreed.... surprise, surprise.
Normally I would only consider you dishonest. But this current position of yours is actively insane.
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