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View Poll Results: Which would you choose?
Tax reform (close loopholes, flat tax, etc) 22 84.62%
Increase revenues (higher taxes, tarriffs, etc) 13 50.00%
Decrease non-Medicare/Medicaid spending 12 46.15%
Decrease Medicare/Medicaid spending 11 42.31%
Decrease military spending 19 73.08%
Decrease other spending (elaborate) 14 53.85%
Trade reform 17 65.38%
Balanced Budget Amendment 14 53.85%
Other 7 26.92%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 26. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 01-03-2012, 05:23 PM
 
Location: Fredericktown,Ohio
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The housing crisis is the problem. Foreclosures and underwater mortgages are depressing the economy still. Until you fix that problem, nothing will help.
I hope you are not implying that we should re inflate the bubble. Housing is going get worse and it will be many years before it improves.
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Old 01-03-2012, 05:39 PM
 
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Arrest the CEOs who have and continue to offshore manufacturing jobs to other countries and charge them with treason.
If I was a CEO with a manufacturing plant I'd probably outsource it too, why in the world would you set up shop here?? The US has the highest corporate tax rate in the world and regulates many types of businesses so much that it becomes too difficult to expand and reap a good profit. Much moreso than wages the taxes and regulations are responsible for driving factories out of this country and the jobs along with them.
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Old 01-03-2012, 05:51 PM
 
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Decrease military spending

Do we really need to still have operating bases in Germany and Japan? We have suspended aid to Pakistan, which is a start. We also should end aid to Egypt too.

Decrease other spending (elaborate)

End all aid to Africa - Dambisa Moyo: Cut Off Aid to Africa and Weaning Africa Off Aid - Forbes.com
Ditto these, and to expand on the first point, also get out of the Middle East completely and let them fight for their own independence as we did ours.

Also place heavy fines on companies hiring illegals whilst encouraging citizens to turn in those they know are here illegally (you have to be an idiot to think people do not know who is illegal in their own communities).
Once those 10s of millions are gone, that's 10s of millions of Americans -- who may have been formerly on unemployment -- who can now work.
Yes they'll "do those jobs," just as Americans did before we had illegals do them.

Not to mention that anyone struggling on welfare and complaining they have no work should be pleased as punch to have ANY job.

Also, once they're gone, that should eliminate any last need for the gov't to provide translation materials for schools, the DMV, and so on.
For those here legally who don't speak English, it is a great incentive to start learning.
More money saved, as well as the money saved by taxpayers not having to pay for illegals' medical bills.

Moving on, no spending on ridiculous benefits for prisoners!
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Senate/Congress seats would be part-time only, and their pay would reflect this.

A penultimate point: Goods from China and other countries should be highly discouraged (if not flat-out removed), and American goods favored.
You know, goods made by all those Americans and their companies which have the door open to them now that we got rid of the illegals and the Chinese (etc) items.

Finally, if you spent more than you could afford, it sucks to be you and you should have to deal with the consequences.
This goes for individuals who bought ridiculous homes, this goes for banks who borrowed out of their reach, this goes for the federal government.
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Old 01-03-2012, 05:58 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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1. Impose a 6% federal sales tax on all products not manufactured in the USA.
2. Down size the military
3. Cut foreign aid
4. Tax breaks to companys that move their manufacturing back to the USA
5. Immigrants here on work VISA pay a higher tax than citizens
6. Have a national lottery. Voluntary contribution 1 drawing per week based on last 4 didgits of ssn. you can only win once. Up to 10.00 per pay check.
10.00 buys you 5 chances to win. 50% of revenue goes to the debt. 5 winners per week split the tax free winnings.
It should be 25% of the total revenue is spread between .1% of the people. This would be a $1000 payout and keep people interested. Making a few multi-millionaires with impossible odds (5 winners?, really?) would only stir the hate pot.

as for the thread;

We need a flat tax PERIOD. This will force the 48% to actually pay something.
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Old 01-04-2012, 01:21 PM
 
Location: Fairfax County, VA
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We give China favorable trade agreements. So they can make more money on the products they sell to us, then we can selling our products to them. For instance, for a US company to sell in China, they must open a factory there. Not so for China to sell a good here in the United States.

Why would we do something that sounds that crazy?

Well, China has 1.3 billion people. The United States has around 350 million people.

So they have a MUCH bigger market to sell to. So, the economic gurus feel that if you with the added base of possible consumers, it pays to give China favorable trading agreements.

Macro economics.

Thank you for explaining that to me. It makes sense.
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Old 01-04-2012, 02:35 PM
 
Location: Embarrassing, WA
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Instate a balanced trade act....i.e...you increase tariff's such that you have balanced trade with that country +/-. THIS MEANS YOU CHINA!
A temporary spike in the prices of imported goods will be offset by the return of our mfg jobs and stabilaization of our economy via a stronger dollar.

Illegals get X-amount of time to go thru a greencard program, pay ~$3000 each and pass the same background checks and tests(learn to read and speak ENGLISH!) that legal immigrants have to take, or be deported. None of this "it's not my job" crap. All gov't entities become checkpoints for illegals. No drivers licenses, insurance, tabs, bank accounts, check cashing, credit cards, leasing, etc etc, for illegals.

Illegals are not to recieve ONE DOLLAR of any welfare, assisted living, medical coverage, get paid to sit on your butt programs. I am tired of seeing some mexican squeeze out kid #6 for free while I can barely afford the co-pay for one childbirth while my employer pays $1000+/mo for my insurance.

Diversify and make available alternative energy now. This means natural gas, propane, and charging stations at every gas station. Lets use what we can out of our own ground and stop importing oil.

Put an end to lobbying in Washington. How about we go back to "of the people, by the people, for the people" instead of "of the people, by the corporations, for the corporations"?

Implement a refinance program for those underwater on their mortgages which writes the homes down to current value. Wall St. has had enough bailouts, how about one for the homeowners?

If gov't wants better average MPG from our cars, they have nowhere to look except themselves.
In our locale, I can average 39 mpg in an AWD Subuaru on the new portion of highway that utilizes round-a-bouts so there is no stop and go. I am lucky to see 26mpg in my commute thanks to mis-timed stoplights every block, 4 way stops, lack of left turn lanes, etc etc. Sequence the lights and design the expansion of roadways to "keep america moving". Your most efficent car is still going to get ZERO mpg stopped at a light or stuck in traffic.

Pull our troops out of other countries. As already said we don't need to be the worlds policeman.
Spend 1/3rd of that budget securing our own borders and transportation systems and enjoy a safer country.

Rant over.
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Old 01-04-2012, 02:38 PM
 
Location: One of the 13 original colonies.
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How would you fix the economy?



Get Obama the hell out of office now.
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Old 01-04-2012, 03:58 PM
 
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Where is the increase deficit amendment to finance SS withholding and rebate it to tax payers?
No raising interest rates either to stop fueling asset prices.

Oh well, guess that's why we are still here 4 years later with no end in sight.

Here is a hint. Put the money where there is deflation like wages and stop printing money with ZIRP that is creating a world wide dollar glut and farm land speculation with carry trade which will either cause it to bust, or if the positions it it financing collapses, then it will unwind like massive dollar shot sell to Dow 6000.


Not one actual solution in that list so see you here next year same ole same ole.
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Old 01-04-2012, 04:05 PM
 
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Where is the increase deficit amendment to finance SS withholding and rebate it to tax payers?
No raising interest rates either to stop fueling asset prices.

Oh well, guess that's why we are still here 4 years later with no end in sight.

Here is a hint. Put the money where there is deflation like wages and stop printing money with ZIRP that is creating a world wide dollar glut and farm land speculation with carry trade which will either cause it to bust, or if the positions it it financing collapses, then it will unwind like massive dollar shot sell to Dow 6000.


Not one actual solution in that list so see you here next year same ole same ole.
that would make way too much sense. we need to keep the boot on the necks of most americans, until the banks feel more comfortable and ready to lend out the credit that the Federal Reserve lends them.
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Old 01-04-2012, 04:11 PM
 
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I hope you are not implying that we should re inflate the bubble. Housing is going get worse and it will be many years before it improves.

If real estate prices fell by 50%, it would fix the economy. The problem is very simple and its housing debt to GDP and wage ratios. Which business you want to get into?

Sell coconuts on a $100 month rent island?

Sell coconuts on a $2000 a month rent island?


Whats a job that pays $25 an hour job where rent costs $5000 a month? Its a career opportunity to rack up a $1000 a month debt. What's it at $500 a month? Its a living.

Its not rocket science. Its more like 3rd grade math. As a matter of fact I could probably teach 3rd graders how to fix the economy in an afternoon. Teaching adults and PHDs in neoclassical economics would take years and lots of brain surgery.
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