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Old 07-05-2011, 11:30 AM
 
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So, in essence, this guy is saying the white producers of BET, at Viacom, are picking out the worst, most destructive aspects of the black culture, and promoting them as a way to destroy the black community from within?
LOL the guy better not turn on MTV and see the crap they've been pushing on "white" america for the past decade or so. He'll be writing thankyou letters to BET in no time.
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Old 07-07-2011, 02:31 PM
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LOL the guy better not turn on MTV and see the crap they've been pushing on "white" america for the past decade or so. He'll be writing thankyou letters to BET in no time.
MTV AND BET BOTH suck.

I may not be old enough to remember when they both started out, but I'm still old enough to remember when MTV was still a cool, original network and BET was tollerable.
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Old 07-07-2011, 02:37 PM
 
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LOL the guy better not turn on MTV and see the crap they've been pushing on "white" america for the past decade or so. He'll be writing thankyou letters to BET in no time.
Yeah. In all fairness I have to say MTV is no better than BET. They suck in different ways, but they both adhere to idiotic pop culture.
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Old 07-08-2011, 01:25 PM
 
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A culture that glamorizes shooting cops, joining criminal gangs, flashing materialism, blaming whitey, degrading women, dressing like prisoners and pimping hos.

Hmm.. and people wonder where all the "racism" stuff comes from. Are they in denial?
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Old 07-09-2011, 04:09 PM
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A culture that glamorizes shooting cops, joining criminal gangs, flashing materialism, blaming whitey, degrading women, dressing like prisoners and pimping hos.

Hmm.. and people wonder where all the "racism" stuff comes from. Are they in denial?
I'm pretty sure your one of the many who sees it as this and not as embracing differences, encouraging poetry, creating an art form of flowing with a beat while rhyming, or creating more opportunites for blacks/latinos than most careers in this country.

I guess it's easy to ignore any consious hip hop material that actually focuses on building up poor communities, wanting blacks to get out of the slave mentality, stepping AWAY from violence and getting more involved with anything beneficial to this world, let alone the United States when you'd rather be closed and narrow-minded about it.

That's understandable...
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Old 07-09-2011, 04:11 PM
 
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I guess it's easy to ignore any consious hip hop material that actually focuses on building up poor communities, wanting blacks to get out of the slave mentality, stepping AWAY from violence and getting more involved with anything beneficial to this world, let alone the United States when you'd rather be closed and narrow-minded about it.

That's understandable...
Who's ignoring it? The people who listen to this mainstream crap. We're commenting on that because that's what people are listening to. Hence the word "mainstream"
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Old 07-09-2011, 04:13 PM
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Who's ignoring it? The people who listen to this mainstream crap. We're commenting on that because that's what people are listening to. Hence the word "mainstream"
You obviously didn't read that entire post.

I said "consious hip hop material". The stuff they don't play on the radio every 5 mins.
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Old 07-09-2011, 04:14 PM
 
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You obviously didn't read that entire post.

I said "consious hip hop material". The stuff they don't play on the radio every 5 mins.
I know that. What I'm saying is that we don't hate rap, we hate the crap that plays on the radio. The public face of rap.

Edit - I'm sure the poster was generalizing but that's because the rap he knows is probably the mainstream stuff.
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Old 07-09-2011, 04:18 PM
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I know that. What I'm saying is that we don't hate rap, we hate the crap that plays on the radio. The public face of rap.

Edit - I'm sure the poster was generalizing but that's because the rap he knows is probably the mainstream stuff.
I know.... and that's the point. Some people would rather just listen to what's given to them instead of actually trying to see another side...
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Old 07-09-2011, 04:21 PM
 
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I know.... and that's the point. Some people would rather just listen to what's given to them instead of actually trying to see another side...
Right but the issue here is what BET plays, the mainstream stuff. Obviously not all rap is bad, but if the rap that's put in everyone's faces is bad then they're going to generalize. That's just how people think.

Nobody wants to ban rap, they just don't like the crap they play on the radio. When someone says "rap" in this context, they're generalizing but if you ask them to get specific they will probably differentiate between lil wayne and immortal technique for example.
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