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Old 06-08-2011, 12:18 PM
 
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I will donate to Pelosi so she can give me a waiver
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Old 06-08-2011, 12:20 PM
 
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This may have been discussed before. If it has, I apologize. I missed it the first time around and if there is an existing thread that has gone dormant can someone please provide a link.

Question: when the Obamacare mandate to buy insurance or pay a fine becomes law in 2014 how will you handle the situation? Will you comply and buy an essentially worthless policy with high monthly premiums that is full of high deductibles and co-pays with the likelihood that when a serious illness comes around the ins. co. will just deny your claim anyway? Will you just bite the bullet and pay the $500 fine each year to avoid having to shell out roughly $8,000/10,000 a year in premiums? Will you just leave the country altogether? Will you hide? What are your plans for dealing with this very sticky situation?
Refuse to see Obamacare patients. We cannot afford to do so. Those patients will simply jam the ERs and the county hospitals, further eroding the quality of care.
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Old 06-08-2011, 12:21 PM
 
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That's good. Going without insurance is a recipe for financial ruin. The new state based exchanges will really help small employers, the self-employed, and those looking on their own for insurance.
On what planet?
Government health care just like Medicare denies far more procedures and they had to steal half a trillion out of Medicare in the Obamacare just to start this mess.

Any employees over 4 will cause the business to have to get insurance for all. This is going to close/retire a ton of small businesses and those that will stick around will fire all but four people to get under the requirement of law.

Misery for all. Obamacare!

You can't afford it? Cough up the $5000 fine to be collected by the IRS as well.
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Old 06-08-2011, 12:25 PM
 
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Will keep Employer Health, but eventualy sign up for a concierge doctor....can only imagine what will happen when the system is flooded with new patients...actually know that already, moved to MA and experienced it ......not a good thing at all...more wait time, less time with doc, feel more like a number, quality of care has decreased, less access to specialists...
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Old 06-08-2011, 02:57 PM
 
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The mandate will be dropped, so stop the worrying or is that fear mongering. That said, I do not care if others take advantage of an affordable program or not, just so long as hospitals do not treat them and pass the costs on to the rest of us. No coverage, no treatment, reeeeeal simple.
Casper
I agree. There needs to be a national "opt out" database; anybody on it either pays up front or is refused treatment.
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Old 06-08-2011, 03:27 PM
 
Location: Georgia, on the Florida line, right above Tallahassee
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Refuse to see Obamacare patients. We cannot afford to do so. Those patients will simply jam the ERs and the county hospitals, further eroding the quality of care.
Poor people.

Don't be jammin mah ER's, mmmm k? ..... plz, just suffer and die, Kthxbye.
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Old 06-08-2011, 03:28 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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I agree. There needs to be a national "opt out" database; anybody on it either pays up front or is refused treatment.
That would require a reform to EMTLA as well.
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Old 06-08-2011, 03:28 PM
 
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I'm not a bottom feeding freeloader. I already have insurance.
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Old 06-08-2011, 03:33 PM
 
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That's good. Going without insurance is a recipe for financial ruin. The new state based exchanges will really help small employers, the self-employed, and those looking on their own for insurance.
Um, it WAS the receipt for financial ruin, but not with Obamacare, which wiped out the pre-existing condition mandates.. One can just wait and wait and wait, and then buy insurance when its needed.
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Old 06-08-2011, 03:36 PM
 
Location: Beautiful NNJ
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My employer plans to continue providing expensive health insurance for all of our f/t employees (three, at the moment) as its been doing since the early '80s. As time goes by we expect to enjoy the effects of Obamacare as rates go down for everyone since more and more people will be paying into the system.
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