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Old 05-04-2011, 06:18 AM
 
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So? What's your point? Reagan didn't do any of the actual gritty work himself, but he is credited with bringing down the Soviet Union.


................... right.....................

Reagan surrounded himself with competent subordinates, yet made the BIG decisions.

It is shocking, yet very sad, that those in the Obama administration did not trust him with the decision to take out Bin Laden. It shows quite clearly that even those in the white house know that he is incompetent and cannot be trusted.

It really begs the question as to what would happen and who would make the decisions if a true national emergency occurred?
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Old 05-04-2011, 06:27 AM
 
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Another thread by wingnuts designed to mock Obama by insinuating he didn't give the order to kill bin Laden. That he was "indecisive". Note that the link quotes an anonymous "insider" as the supposed source (translation: totally made up BS).

Wingnuts can't get themselves to accept that Obama - a black man that they look down on because they view him as inferior to them - can accomplish what Bush the idiot failed to do in 8 years.

Well....well....well....it certainly never does take long- does it? Post #5 this time.
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Old 05-04-2011, 06:43 AM
 
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................... right.....................

Reagan surrounded himself with competent subordinates, yet made the BIG decisions.

It is shocking, yet very sad, that those in the Obama administration did not trust him with the decision to take out Bin Laden. It shows quite clearly that even those in the white house know that he is incompetent and cannot be trusted.

It really begs the question as to what would happen and who would make the decisions if a true national emergency occurred?

And so you base your opinion that Obama is "incompetent and cannot be trusted" on a link to a blog quoting "anonymous insider sources" which sounds like a totally fabricated story that you've lapped up to be true? Why am I not shocked?

So the wingnut meme now is 1.) bin Laden didn't really die, this is all fake news intended to boost Obama's sagging popularity; 2.) the credit for bin Laden's non-death goes to Bush for torturing prisoners in Gitmo; and 3.) the fictional raid on bin Laden was ordered by Obama's advisers because Obama himself was too incompetent to order the assault which didn't really happen.

Bravo. These wingnut delusions are hard to beat.

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Old 05-04-2011, 07:37 AM
 
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Well....well....well....it certainly never does take long- does it? Post #5 this time.
Hey, if you want to believe there there's a White House insider who believes that, and has been giving interviews to an anonymous blogger for months, and at times tells him

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then I think you're looking at this as something you want to believe, rather than reality.
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Old 05-04-2011, 07:41 AM
 
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White House Insider: Obama Hesitated – Panetta Issued Order to Kill Osama Bin Laden | Socyberty


We've heard so much over the past few years that whenever there's a situation, we can always find our President vacationing or golfing .. In light of these most current events, I'm not in the least bit surprised to learn that the President "choked" when it came time to make another, very important decision.

This is our President .. Obama .. who would prefer to not acting under his own volition for fear that someone, somewhere, might have an opinion, or a critique of him.

I'm not impressed at all with him remaining on the sidelines .. The Republicans won't beat him in 2012 .. his habitual indecision is what's going to beat him ..


When the operation finally unfolded and Barry walked into the "Situation Room" he said "I got the winner!". Obama thought he was watching an XBox 360 game on the monitor and wanted to play.
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Old 05-04-2011, 08:08 AM
 
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And so you base your opinion that Obama is "incompetent and cannot be trusted" on a link to a blog quoting "anonymous insider sources" which sounds like a totally fabricated story that you've lapped up to be true? Why am I not shocked?

So the wingnut meme now is 1.) bin Laden didn't really die, this is all fake news intended to boost Obama's sagging popularity; 2.) the credit for bin Laden's non-death goes to Bush for torturing prisoners in Gitmo; and 3.) the fictional raid on bin Laden was ordered by Obama's advisers because Obama himself was too incompetent to order the assault which didn't really happen.

Bravo. These wingnut delusions are hard to beat.
It's not even ignorance, it's brazen lies. They don't even bother to make them internally consistent.

They don't care whether any of it is true or not.
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Old 05-04-2011, 08:24 AM
 
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White House Insider: Obama Hesitated – Panetta Issued Order to Kill Osama Bin Laden | Socyberty


We've heard so much over the past few years that whenever there's a situation, we can always find our President vacationing or golfing .. In light of these most current events, I'm not in the least bit surprised to learn that the President "choked" when it came time to make another, very important decision.

This is our President .. Obama .. who would prefer to not acting under his own volition for fear that someone, somewhere, might have an opinion, or a critique of him.

I'm not impressed at all with him remaining on the sidelines .. The Republicans won't beat him in 2012 .. his habitual indecision is what's going to beat him ..
All I can say is this.....Hillary Clinton will let the cat out of the bag in her first book outside of the Obama Administration. I have zero doubt that she will expose this fraud for who he really is.
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Old 05-04-2011, 08:40 AM
 
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All I can say is WOW!...this is just mind-boggling. The details are too deep and too many to be a fake. I won't assume that every detail is spot on...but I will say this: The story details President Obama being pulled off of the golf course and detailed of the mission as it had already been initiated. This fits precisely in line with an article on MSNBC yesterday whereas a journalist noted that he had never see the President in the Oval Office in his golfing shoes. The journalist went on to say that he thought it was odd that the President would do such a thing sporadically, and that it was just assumed that it was so he could issue the order to kill OBL. What we're reading now is starting to tell the real story it seems to me.
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Old 05-04-2011, 08:47 AM
 
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So? What's your point? Reagan didn't do any of the actual gritty work himself, but he is credited with bringing down the Soviet Union.
You have clearly missed the point.

0bama campaigned against, and stated his opposition to aggressive interrogations, Gitmo, and rendition, he even signed executive orders banning these, and yet it appears the intel that allowed us to locate bin Laden came from the use of all the above.

It was Regan's domestic and foreign policy that helped bring down the USSR, while 0bama's policies on interrogation, rendition and Gitmo were counter to finding bin Laden.

This would be like Nixon campaigning on the waste of space exploration, and promising to end it if elected president. Upon taking office as the president, signing executive orders to cancel all further space exploration. Then running out with a speech loaded with "I", "me", "my", and "we", to take credit for the moon walk and safe return of the Apollo 11 astronauts.
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Old 05-04-2011, 08:48 AM
 
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And so you base your opinion that Obama is "incompetent and cannot be trusted" on a link to a blog quoting "anonymous insider sources" which sounds like a totally fabricated story that you've lapped up to be true? Why am I not shocked?

So the wingnut meme now is 1.) bin Laden didn't really die, this is all fake news intended to boost Obama's sagging popularity; 2.) the credit for bin Laden's non-death goes to Bush for torturing prisoners in Gitmo; and 3.) the fictional raid on bin Laden was ordered by Obama's advisers because Obama himself was too incompetent to order the assault which didn't really happen.

Bravo. These wingnut delusions are hard to beat.
1. Bin Laden did die- they checked DNA matches from family members.

2. Credit for killing Bin Laden goes to the Navy Seals

3. The information about Bin Laden's courier WAS OBTAINED at Gitmo

4. Obama apparently is too incompetent to be trusted with important decisions.

The delusional ones are those who were beguilled into voting for a community organizer with absolutely no experience to the highest post in the world. Would you hire a fourth grader to design and build jet aircraft? Of course not. Let's "hire" a competent president in 2012 and forget about putting community organizers in such a powerful position.
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