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Old 03-31-2011, 01:11 PM
 
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Japan’s Nuclear Rescuers: ‘Inevitable Some of Them May Die Within Weeks’

Workers at the disaster-stricken Fukushima nuclear plant in Japan say they expect to die from radiation sickness as a result of their efforts to bring the reactors under control, the mother of one of the men tells Fox News.

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“He told me they have accepted they will all probably die from radiation sickness in the short term or cancer in the long-term.”


Very heroic – we will see what happens.
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Old 04-12-2011, 02:23 PM
 
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Fukushima story is 1-to-1 like Chernobyl story. I remember how people was ready to die in order to extinguish fire in Chernobyl and how USSR government made heroes from them etc.
Problem is however that real culprits of this disaster are still sitting in their chairs and most likely not planning to die from radiation.
P.S. Under culprits I understand long list of people: corrupted Japanese government, corrupted leaders of TEPCO, GE etc. All of them knew that this area can and will have earthquakes and tsunami. None of them made an effort to build defense against it. Corporations saved money, government close eyes for it. Now they only say "Level of radiation is low, not harmful, lover then in Chernobyl etc." The same crap USSR government sad to Russian people 20 years ago.
So why somebody should become a hero and die when somebody else get rich?
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Old 04-12-2011, 02:32 PM
 
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These people were already going to die for their country long before they were ever given the chance to choose.
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Old 04-12-2011, 02:33 PM
 
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Very noble thing they are doing, but just to clarify, despite them increasing the threat level to a 7, this is no where near as bad as Chernobyl. The IAEA really needs to redesign their scale. While 7 is currently the highest, Chernobyl was equivalent to a 10 or 11.
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Old 04-12-2011, 02:36 PM
 
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Fukushima story is 1-to-1 like Chernobyl story. I remember how people was ready to die in order to extinguish fire in Chernobyl and how USSR government made heroes from them etc.
Problem is however that real culprits of this disaster are still sitting in their chairs and most likely not planning to die from radiation.
P.S. Under culprits I understand long list of people: corrupted Japanese government, corrupted leaders of TEPCO, GE etc. All of them knew that this area can and will have earthquakes and tsunami. None of them made an effort to build defense against it. Corporations saved money, government close eyes for it. Now they only say "Level of radiation is low, not harmful, lover then in Chernobyl etc." The same crap USSR government sad to Russian people 20 years ago.
So why somebody should become a hero and die when somebody else get rich?
You're making a lot of statements of blame here...do you know for a fact that they were negligent?
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Old 04-12-2011, 02:38 PM
 
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These people were already going to die for their country long before they were ever given the chance to choose.
Sad but true. These people were going to die for their country whether they wanted to or not. But the media will use it to once again hype the "superiority of Asian courage, poise, and restraint in the face of disaster" as opposed to the more realistic Asian attribute of forced civil obedience and subservience.
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Old 04-12-2011, 02:40 PM
 
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Very noble thing they are doing, but just to clarify, despite them increasing the threat level to a 7, this is no where near as bad as Chernobyl. The IAEA really needs to redesign their scale. While 7 is currently the highest, Chernobyl was equivalent to a 10 or 11.
There's talk that one of the containment vessels has been breached, if the containment vessel of just one of these reactors has been compromised then yes, it's on the level of Chernobyl. We just don't know and frankly, Japan isn't going to be honest about this until it's too late.
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Old 04-12-2011, 02:44 PM
 
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There's talk that one of the containment vessels has been breached, if the containment vessel of just one of these reactors has been compromised then yes, it's on the level of Chernobyl. We just don't know and frankly, Japan isn't going to be honest about this until it's too late.
Still not even close.

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The Japanese Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency (NISA) today issued a new provisional rating for the accident at the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant on the IAEA International Nuclear and Radiological Event Scale (INES).

The nuclear accident at Fukushima Daiichi is now rated as a level 7 "Major Accident" on INES. Level 7 is the most serious level on INES and is used to describe an event comprised of "A major release of radioactive material with widespread health and environmental effects requiring implementation of planned and extended countermeasures." Japanese authorities notified the IAEA in advance of the public announcement and the formal submission of the new provisional rating.

The new provisional rating considers the accidents that occurred at Units 1, 2 and 3 as a single event on INES. Previously, separate INES Level 5 ratings had been applied for Units 1, 2 and 3. The provisional INES Level 3 rating assigned for Unit 4 still applies.

The re-evaluation of the Fukushima Daiichi provisional INES rating resulted from an estimate of the total amount of radioactivity released to the environment from the nuclear plant. NISA estimates that the amount of radioactive material released to the atmosphere is approximately 10 percent of the 1986 Chernobyl accident, which is the only other nuclear accident to have been rated a Level 7 event.

Earlier ratings of the nuclear accident at Fukushima Daiichi were assessed as follows:

On 18 March, Japanese authorities rated the core damage at the Fukushima Daiichi 1, 2 and 3 reactor Units caused by loss of all cooling function to have been at Level 5 on the INES scale. They further assessed that the loss of cooling and water supplying functions in the spent fuel pool of the Unit 4 reactor to have been rated at Level 3.

Japanese authorities may revise the INES rating at the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant as further information becomes available.

INES is used to promptly and consistently communicate to the public the safety significance of events associated with sources of radiation. The scale runs from 0 (deviation) to 7 (major accident).

For further information on the INES scale:
International Nuclear Events Scale (INES)
Further details regarding this development can be found in the following NISA press release:
http://www.nisa.meti.go.jp/english/f...20110412-4.pdf
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Old 04-12-2011, 02:46 PM
 
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Still not even close.
According to the Japanese Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency
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Old 04-12-2011, 02:59 PM
 
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According to the Japanese Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency
I haven't seen the IAEA say this is equivalent to Chernobyl. Do you have such evidence?
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