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View Poll Results: Who Was Better?
FDR 67 54.47%
Ronald Reagan 56 45.53%
Voters: 123. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 03-12-2011, 06:31 AM
 
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Anybody posting in this thread actually live through the Great Depression and World War II? Yeah, I didn't think so.

Go talk to someone who actually did and get their opinion.

most people alive today have very little understanding of events which led to our current recession. we live in a world where information is plentiful and still, misinformation rules the day. speaking to someone who lived through the depression is almost entirely irrelevant. they might articulate their personal experiences but that doesn't mean they understand the economics of the depression.

did you consider that before writing your comment? my grandmother for instance, lived through the depression. whilst being and awesome cook and homemaker, i'd hardly consider her an expert on the depression. she might be able to tell me how they personally dealt with the hardship but, from a policy pov, that is almost totally worthless. we have an administration today which is following many of fdr's misguided policies. it is critical that we re-examine the period so we don't prolong our current circumstances. asking some old bag simply won't cut it
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Old 03-12-2011, 08:24 AM
 
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FDR was a socialist whose policies started the nation down the path of collectivism and statism that is the root cause of most of the problems that we now face. Reagan was a patriot and an optimist that loved America and whose administration was a major contributor to ending the Soviet threat. Really nothing to debate.
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Old 03-12-2011, 08:26 AM
 
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most people alive today have very little understanding of events which led to our current recession. we live in a world where information is plentiful and still, misinformation rules the day. speaking to someone who lived through the depression is almost entirely irrelevant. they might articulate their personal experiences but that doesn't mean they understand the economics of the depression.

did you consider that before writing your comment? my grandmother for instance, lived through the depression. whilst being and awesome cook and homemaker, i'd hardly consider her an expert on the depression. she might be able to tell me how they personally dealt with the hardship but, from a policy pov, that is almost totally worthless. we have an administration today which is following many of fdr's misguided policies. it is critical that we re-examine the period so we don't prolong our current circumstances. asking some old bag simply won't cut it
This seems like a very arrogant and rather condescending way to look at people.
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Old 03-12-2011, 08:28 AM
 
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FDR was a socialist whose policies started the nation down the path of collectivism and statism that is the root cause of most of the problems that we now face. Reagan was a patriot and an optimist that loved America and whose administration was a major contributor to ending the Soviet threat. Really nothing to debate.
So you're saying Roosevelt was not a patriot or an optimist?

Does "We have nothing to fear but fear itself," ring a bell?
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Old 03-12-2011, 08:48 AM
 
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FDR set us on a course of destruction that has raped this Country ever since.

I liked Reagan but don't think he walked on water either.
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Old 03-12-2011, 08:56 AM
 
Location: Orange County, CA
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One of myths that leftists perpetuate is that FDR eased the pain of the depression. Not so, his administration prolonged it and made it worse. He was elected in 1932, but after six years in office the nation was still in economic misery. Franklin Roosevelt did not end the depression, it was Adolph Hitler and Hideki Tojo that did.
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Old 03-12-2011, 09:15 AM
 
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This seems like a very arrogant and rather condescending way to look at people.
apologies, i try not to be condescending. did you live through the depression? when you speak to people who lived through it, what do they say?

here is a quote from henry morganthau jr, fdr's treasury secretary. while many on the left argue that this little tidbit was planted by the gop into the national library, i'm convinced that it's genuine.

"We have tried spending money. We are spending more than we have ever spent before and it does not work. And I have just one interest, and if I am wrong … somebody else can have my job. I want to see this country prosperous. I want to see people get a job. I want to see people get enough to eat. We have never made good on our promises. … I say after eight years of this Administration we have just as much unemployment as when we started. … And an enormous debt to boot."
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Old 03-13-2011, 01:12 AM
 
Location: Texas
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The Lochner era prolonged the depression, once FDR was able to actually implement legislation it ended quickly.
quickly??? hardly
It was FDRs policies, manipulation of the economy, that extended the depression. That fool made the same mistake twice when he artificially inflated wages for a segment of the population. That caused prices to rise and only those with the raise could afford the new higher prices. That is only one example of what that buffoon did to keep us in the depression. The free market was choked when FDR was president.
After the war ended the economy crawled out of its depression.
I wonder what the thinking was? Government was the one that put us into the depression, they should be the ones to get us out mentality.
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Old 03-13-2011, 03:02 AM
 
Location: Chicago
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Doesn't this thread belong in the history forum?
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Old 03-13-2011, 05:14 AM
 
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Who was the better president? FDR is the father of liberalism while Ronald Reagan is regarded as the greatest Republican president.

father of liberalism? you must mean social security and how he actually extended the depression instead of shortening it.
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