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They should say what types of majors blacks who can't find jobs choose. I don't see black people having any problems whenever they major in science related fields.
Have you seen their wages and they way they are treated in their jobs?
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Originally Posted by miyu
They should say what types of majors blacks who can't find jobs choose. I don't see black people having any problems whenever they major in science related fields.
The idea is that the information, service, education, and health sectors are said to grow quicker than manufacturing.
Low end service sector jobs are thus flooded and since they require little skill, pay less.
Thus, it's more lucrative to go to college.
However, there are still plenty of other technical jobs that exist. Automotive technicians, plumbers, electricians, and yes some manufacturing (esp. in green tech).
These do not require a liberal education, but rather require specialized training and thus some post secondary education.
The only degree I saw mentioned was marketing. Is that considered part of the service sector?
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Littlejohn has a degree in marketing but doesn't feel as if the degree and the curriculum she studied gave her the focus she needed to land the right job.
If a college education is the way to avoid low end, low paying jobs, how do you deal with corporations going to lower-cost markets?
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First, as corporations continue to relocate thousands of jobs to lower-cost markets in more rural areas, many of the opportunities that were once available to black workers in metropolitan centers are now nonexistent.
The only degree I saw mentioned was marketing. Is that considered part of the service sector?
If a college education is the way to avoid low end, low paying jobs, how do you deal with corporations going to lower-cost markets?
Marketing would be the service sector, as is finance, basically any tertiary sector jobs (think white collar).
The thing is that many service sector jobs can't be outsourced. Marketing requires you to be in tune with the pulse of culture in order to effectively target your demographic. Imagine the debacle of not knowing your demographic. Well, hence why LA, NYC, and Chicago are the centers of marketing. Same with finance or government or many other service sector/tertiary sector jobs.
Blacks are believed to go into the sciences at the same rates as Whites.
Much of this is also the school itself. I'm mixed race from UCSB and had no trouble finding work. Same with my friends from UCLA, UCSD, USC, Stanford, Cornell...all of whom are Black. These schools have the money, resources, and network power to enable you to get a job. All of these schools have VERY small Black populations. My friends that wen to CSU schools had more trouble finding a job, but less than my friends that went to third and fourth tier schools.
For example Cal State San Marcos is heavily minority, but does not have the same marketability as a UC or high end private school (or even higher end CSUs).
My old boss stated that the reason I was hired was because I interviewed well and I went to UCSB. It was a job in sales, I had minimal sales experience. It was a SALARIED position in sales with GREAT commission rates (rare in insurance). During the height of the recession I was able to get a part time job paying $15 an hour because of my alma mater. Now I'm in South Korea and the boss was impressed by my experience and the fact I went to a UC school.
Schools that are traditionally White have better resources. It's a byproduct of our racist past. However, Blacks at this schools are likely to succeed like their White counterparts because of the system that is in place (now we live in a class based system, so for those Blacks in the upper middle class, you have MORE opportunities available).
I read some place recently that the average black college student reads at an 8th grade level. This obviously has something to do with it. But at some point blacks have to stop blaming everyone but themselves. They have to look internally just like everyone else should.
Have you seen their wages and they way they are treated in their jobs?
To be honest, I was trained and worked in the highest levels of academia for the last 17 years and there is zero tolerance for racism here. Blacks get equal wages for their position as anyone else. Can't say much for anyone who works outside of my safe little bubble.
My job requires a Master's degree. I knocked out grad school (while working) right after finishing my undergrad. That was the best decision I ever made education-wise. For me the value of a college degree has paid dividends. But then again, i'm not black, so I suppose the "natural hair" thing is not an issue for me? LOL
Marketing would be the service sector, as is finance, basically any tertiary sector jobs (think white collar).
The thing is that many service sector jobs can't be outsourced. Marketing requires you to be in tune with the pulse of culture in order to effectively target your demographic. Imagine the debacle of not knowing your demographic. Well, hence why LA, NYC, and Chicago are the centers of marketing. Same with finance or government or many other service sector/tertiary sector jobs.
Blacks are believed to go into the sciences at the same rates as Whites.
Much of this is also the school itself. I'm mixed race from UCSB and had no trouble finding work. Same with my friends from UCLA, UCSD, USC, Stanford, Cornell...all of whom are Black. These schools have the money, resources, and network power to enable you to get a job. All of these schools have VERY small Black populations. My friends that wen to CSU schools had more trouble finding a job, but less than my friends that went to third and fourth tier schools.
For example Cal State San Marcos is heavily minority, but does not have the same marketability as a UC or high end private school (or even higher end CSUs).
My old boss stated that the reason I was hired was because I interviewed well and I went to UCSB. It was a job in sales, I had minimal sales experience. It was a SALARIED position in sales with GREAT commission rates (rare in insurance). During the height of the recession I was able to get a part time job paying $15 an hour because of my alma mater. Now I'm in South Korea and the boss was impressed by my experience and the fact I went to a UC school.
Schools that are traditionally White have better resources. It's a byproduct of our racist past. However, Blacks at this schools are likely to succeed like their White counterparts because of the system that is in place (now we live in a class based system, so for those Blacks in the upper middle class, you have MORE opportunities available).
It sounds like the reason to go to college and a top college at that is simply for connections.
While a class system may exist, is it possible that some corporations know the difference between a person who relies on the right connections and a person who learned for the sake of learning? Both kinds of people can exist in upper classes but have very different attitudes towards learning.
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