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View Poll Results: Is conspiring to overthrow the US government illegal?
Yes it is illegal 45 75.00%
No it is not illegal 5 8.33%
It's only illegal if done forcefully or violently 9 15.00%
I have no idea 1 1.67%
Voters: 60. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 03-03-2011, 12:32 PM
 
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Who's the genius that voted "It's only illegal if done forcefully or violently"???

Simply talking about it is illegal...it's called "sedition".
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Old 03-03-2011, 12:34 PM
 
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Who's the genius that voted "It's only illegal if done forcefully or violently"???

Simply talking about it is illegal...it's called "sedition".
I think I might know who it was that voted that way. That poster said the same thing in the other thread that lead me to start this one. They still believe it. For some reason they think you can conspire by force somehow.
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Old 03-03-2011, 01:00 PM
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I think I might know who it was that voted that way. That poster said the same thing in the other thread that lead me to start this one. They still believe it. For some reason they think you can conspire by force somehow.
Egypt did it.
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Old 03-03-2011, 01:03 PM
 
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Now there are 3 genius that voted that way!?

I wonder what part of the word sedition they don't understand?
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Old 03-03-2011, 01:17 PM
 
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No.

We do it all the time...

... at the ballot box.

That's what has made us the oldest existing constitutional republic on the planet.
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Old 03-03-2011, 01:22 PM
 
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I found the answers to this in another thread to be pretty amazing, so I thought it deserved it's own thread.
Well it's nice to see that you at least learned the difference between overthrowing the government and "pushing to change the form of government". It is nice to see that I didn't waste part of my day having give you a 5th grade civics class.
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Old 03-03-2011, 01:24 PM
 
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Now there are 3 genius that voted that way!?

I wonder what part of the word sedition they don't understand?
The more important question is what part of TITLE 18, PART I, CHAPTER 115 § 2384 do you not understand?

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Old 03-03-2011, 01:29 PM
 
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So we can arrest the Republicans for replacing our Representative Republic with a corporatist tyranny?
Give it a rest, Greg. I don't know what corporatist tyranny means but I know crony capitalism when I see it. You know that cozy relationship between GE's Jeffrey Immelt and Barack Obama? That's what we really need to worry about.
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Old 03-03-2011, 01:39 PM
 
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Well it's nice to see that you at least learned the difference between overthrowing the government and "pushing to change the form of government". It is nice to see that I didn't waste part of my day having give you a 5th grade civics class.
Seditious Conspiracy is illegal as I told you in the other post. You want to see the law again? ok, here it is:

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§ 2384. Seditious conspiracy

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If two or more persons in any State or Territory, or in any place subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, conspire to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, or to oppose by force the authority thereof, or by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States, or by force to seize, take, or possess any property of the United States contrary to the authority thereof, they shall each be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both.
So you know, overthrowing and changing forms is the same thing. Neither is allowed under the Constitution.
United States Code: Title 18,2384. Seditious conspiracy | LII / Legal Information Institute
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Old 03-03-2011, 01:42 PM
 
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The more important question is what part of TITLE 18, PART I, CHAPTER 115 § 2384 do you not understand?
It's you that doesn't understand. Here it is again:

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§ 2384. Seditious conspiracy

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If two or more persons in any State or Territory, or in any place subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, conspire to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, or to oppose by force the authority thereof, or by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States, or by force to seize, take, or possess any property of the United States contrary to the authority thereof, they shall each be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both.
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