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In a review of Roosevelt's 1933 book Looking Forward, Mussolini wrote, "Reminiscent of Fascism is the principle that the state no longer leaves the economy to its own devices.… Without question, the mood accompanying this sea change resembles that of Fascism."
Originally posted by OhioistheBest
FDR took over in the middle of a depression. We stayed in said depression for another 14 years. Longest in U.S. history.
FDR got us involved in an unecessary European war that resulted in 100s of thousands of U.S. causalties and extreme poverty at home.
And they rank him number 1? LOLs.
umm...another 14 years? So the economy recovered in 1947? Sorry, Computer says no.
Actually WWII (which we entered eight years after his inauguration) got us out of the Depression. The country was at near full employment between 1941 and 1945. Yes, there was rationing, but people on the homefront had jobs again--hardly what you call "extreme poverty"
Even most Republicans won't argue with that.
I'm not sure who should be ranked at the top, but I would put Lincoln and FDR at the bottom. Lincoln was the catalyst that started the movement toward the growth of the federal government and it has grown bigger and more powerful ever since. FDR did his part to boost that growth even more.
Your choice of who is the best president all depends on what you want from government.
If you hate big government, the three worst presidents are Lincoln, FDR and Obama.
If you love our nanny state, the the three best are Lincoln, FDR and Obama.
^^^ The royals pay millions in inheritance taxes and millions more in taxes generated on the vast estate they own.
Well, when you are sitting on Billions, a Million here or there isn't really a big deal ... and the Duchy of Lancaster and Cornwall operate as trusts similarly to how elitists in America also shield their fortunes from taxation. Keeps the old money in the old hands
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Originally Posted by ben86
Also, a lot of the expenditure goes towards foreign trips designed to improve diplomatic relations and entertaining foreign heads of state, which we'd have to pay for even if we had a republic. Plus the x amount in tourism revenue brought in by those who like all the heritage and pay to visit the palaces, castles etc.
Yes, publicly funded jet set royalty visiting elitist friends all over the globe, and yes .. exorbitant and decadent wasteful spending that has also been highlighted to occur with our privileged politico elitists which I also decry.
But guess what? Those Castles and Palaces would still be there for people to visit without them being occupied by a bunch of parasitic inbred elitists feeding off the "commoners", no? I mean, it's not like you get to by a ticket to Buckingham Palace and have tea with the Queen, right?
Here in the states ... we have Mt Vernon and President Washington's home ... and we don't have George's great great great great great nephew or cousin sitting there with a wig on tending to a cherry tree.
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Originally Posted by ben86
If they actually cost us anything at all when all that is taken into account, then it would be a really negligible amount per person per year. The public funding they get is much less than it was (Charles and Diana's wedding was publicly funded, whereas only the security for this year's one will be) and most if not all of the younger royals have regular jobs these days and are much more in touch with ordinary people than previously,....
Really? Prince Harry working down at the ole corner chip shop serving up supper, aye? Or is he busing tables? Why you can hardly tell the Royals from the riffraff anymore? hahaha .... and you all have the nerve to make jokes about us Yanks ... hahaha. (Not that there aren't some of us that deserve the stereotype).
Come on ... you are programed just like the American Sheeple are ... bend over, and grab those ankles and scream "yes queen mum, may I have anotha ?"
The "commoners" are being asked to tighten their belts in light of the financial crisis, but don't mess with the Queen's allowance ... no. no. no, she wants to have the Civil List of £7.9 Million, INCREASED, as well as her and the prince's personal stipend, because, well, how's a Queen supposed to make it on £50,000 per month of pocket change... good lord man ... the Queen is in a bloody pickle.
And these royals are SHAMELESS .... the Queen requesting funds from a fund set up for the poor to pay heating expenses for her palaces? That came to light not that long ago, and really is amazing. Were you all not also amazed ?
Not to worry ... new legislation in parliament is going to shield the royals from public disclosure of communications that reveal this type of smut:
though I would still hate to be one and live in a goldfish bowl with cameras on me every day.
F U N N Y !!! Is this British humor? Please ... my dear friend from across the pond .... you are being watched right now. London has more CCTV cameras monitoring you than any other city in the WORLD.
You are the most spied on people the world over .... unlike those that live in the Castles ... which happen to be the ones training those cameras on you ... got to keep tabs on those peasants ... we must keep close watch on our subjugated ... err ... subjects.
F U N N Y !!! Is this British humor? Please ... my dear friend from across the pond .... you are being watched right now. London has more CCTV cameras monitoring you than any other city in the WORLD.
What is the poster doesn't live in London? *Edited to say that his profile says he does*
I personally don't begrudge my 70p a year or whatever it is, as long as they continue to be value for the money we put in.
Not every British person feels so but I don't mind.
Well, when you are sitting on Billions, a Million here or there isn't really a big deal ... and the Duchy of Lancaster and Cornwall operate as trusts similarly to how elitists in America also shield their fortunes from taxation. Keeps the old money in the old hands
Yes, publicly funded jet set royalty visiting elitist friends all over the globe, and yes .. exorbitant and decadent wasteful spending that has also been highlighted to occur with our privileged politico elitists which I also decry.
But guess what? Those Castles and Palaces would still be there for people to visit without them being occupied by a bunch of parasitic inbred elitists feeding off the "commoners", no? I mean, it's not like you get to by a ticket to Buckingham Palace and have tea with the Queen, right?
Here in the states ... we have Mt Vernon and President Washington's home ... and we don't have George's great great great great great nephew or cousin sitting there with a wig on tending to a cherry tree.
Really? Prince Harry working down at the ole corner chip shop serving up supper, aye? Or is he busing tables? Why you can hardly tell the Royals from the riffraff anymore? hahaha .... and you all have the nerve to make jokes about us Yanks ... hahaha. (Not that there aren't some of us that deserve the stereotype).
Come on ... you are programed just like the American Sheeple are ... bend over, and grab those ankles and scream "yes queen mum, may I have anotha ?"
The "commoners" are being asked to tighten their belts in light of the financial crisis, but don't mess with the Queen's allowance ... no. no. no, she wants to have the Civil List of £7.9 Million, INCREASED, as well as her and the prince's personal stipend, because, well, how's a Queen supposed to make it on £50,000 per month of pocket change... good lord man ... the Queen is in a bloody pickle.
And these royals are SHAMELESS .... the Queen requesting funds from a fund set up for the poor to pay heating expenses for her palaces? That came to light not that long ago, and really is amazing. Were you all not also amazed ?
Not to worry ... new legislation in parliament is going to shield the royals from public disclosure of communications that reveal this type of smut:
F U N N Y !!! Is this British humor? Please ... my dear friend from across the pond .... you are being watched right now. London has more CCTV cameras monitoring you than any other city in the WORLD.
You are the most spied on people the world over .... unlike those that live in the Castles ... which happen to be the ones training those cameras on you ... got to keep tabs on those peasants ... we must keep close watch on our subjugated ... err ... subjects.
I'm not sure who should be ranked at the top, but I would put Lincoln and FDR at the bottom. Lincoln was the catalyst that started the movement toward the growth of the federal government and it has grown bigger and more powerful ever since. FDR did his part to boost that growth even more.
Your choice of who is the best president all depends on what you want from government.
If you hate big government, the three worst presidents are Lincoln, FDR and Obama.
If you love our nanny state, the the three best are Lincoln, FDR and Obama.
Let's not forget the "Traitor-in-chief" Woodrow Wilson ... Mr. Federal Reserve act and 16th Amendment.
I swear ... the nerve to put FDR ahead of Thomas Jefferson ... argh!!
The article says that Obama, if he had been included in the survey, would have come in 8th .... 8th !!!!!
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