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Old 12-09-2010, 09:54 AM
 
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Come back after your political science IQ passes room temperature and continue telling me how a person with Obama's professed beliefs could even quality as a Social Democrat, let alone an orthodox Marxist.

But: Back to your proof that these people are affiliated with some leftist group?
This isn't even worth responding to, but here it goes. HE IS A MARXIST! An uber left Progressive. AKA COMMUNIST! There is no changing that fact. You can try and close your eyes and hold your ears, but it won't change the truth.
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Old 12-09-2010, 09:54 AM
 
Location: Silver Springs, FL
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You are too funny. A nurse and a soccer mom are hacking websites? Yeah ok. Do they know that they can go to jail for that? You would condone such acitivity?
Unlike a lot of people, I dont go around on a moral high horse, telling people what they should and shouldnt be doing.
I suppose some people think truth is more important their own personal freedom.
Who am I to judge? Thats not my job, nor is it any of YOUR business what I choose to condone, or otherwise.
You would be surprised who belongs to that group, I'm sure you think they are all a bunch of guys that live in their mommas basement, right?
Methinks you're zeroing in on the messenger.
Typical.
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Old 12-09-2010, 09:57 AM
 
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This isn't even worth responding to, but here it goes. HE IS A MARXIST! An uber left Progressive. AKA COMMUNIST! There is no changing that fact. You can try and close your eyes and hold your ears, but it won't change the truth.
"What I say is true because I say it is true! It's not like I have to substantiate it with facts or anything!"
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Old 12-09-2010, 10:18 AM
 
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Immaturity at it's finest here. The group that is doing the hacking and who actually posted on THEIR website that they were doing it are members of a group that calls themselves Democratic Socialists and a few of them identify as anarchists. That's not left? If not what is it? Your defense of such disgraceful people says all I need to know about what is going on in your mind. But hey, to each his own.
Well I had to use immaturity in order to communicate with some, however I shall lower the bar next time to make it more understandable to you, but hey, to each their own huh. Now prove your own statements or are you making up stuff just like the OP?

You say "they" call(s) themselves "democratic socialist", show me where you found this information. Where did they say this or is it you saying that they said it? From the article posted in the OP, the only technical track of this attack was by a group "loosely" calling itself Anonops.net which is composed of internet vigilantes working under the premise (in their own statement, not mine) Operation:Payback is an ongoing campaign by Anonymous against major anti-piracy & anti-freedom entities The rest of the claims in the OP article state that they are "guessing". Guessing is not proof.

So Sour, now you get to prove your statements since you claim them as fact. Lets see the evidence of your claims.
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Old 12-09-2010, 10:21 AM
 
Location: Silver Springs, FL
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Well I had to use immaturity in order to communicate with some, however I shall lower the bar next time to make it more understandable to you, but hey, to each their own huh. Now prove your own statements or are you making up stuff just like the OP?

You say "they" call(s) themselves "democratic socialist", show me where you found this information. Where did they say this or is it you saying that they said it? From the article posted in the OP, the only technical track of this attack was by a group "loosely" calling itself Anonops.net which is composed of internet vigilantes working under the premise (in their own statement, not mine) Operation:Payback is an ongoing campaign by Anonymous against major anti-piracy & anti-freedom entities The rest of the claims in the OP article state that they are "guessing". Guessing is not proof.

So Sour, now you get to prove your statements since you claim them as fact. Lets see the evidence of your claims.
Heh, he doesnt know doodley-squat about the group.
This should prove interesting.
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Old 12-09-2010, 10:24 AM
 
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Saying someone should be murdered isn't just a "free speech" issue and instead it is incite people to commit a crime.
This little fact seems to be lost on certain people. I suspect that their belief in "free speech", the rule of law and due process is limited to those that agree with them.
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Old 12-09-2010, 03:09 PM
 
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I thought the RW was opposed to Scientology, felt it wasn't really a religion. (I happen to agree with that assessment, FWIW.)
Some Scientologists agree too. I believe Will Smith is a Christian but using Scientology as a basis for educating his children in a charter school. Christian activists swear he's a devil worshiper. I think they need to state their concerns a little more plainly than screaming devil, but apparently the omnipotent God hat they're wearing tells them otherwise.

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Well there are those on the left who do much the same when discussing anything Tea Party related, so its not indicative of any side but more of a sign of the times.
I don't call Tea conservative with a cuss word under my breath. I don't consider them to be leftist either. The apt name is the narcissist party trolling for a posse.

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I could care less what the Presidents political faction is. Just as there are people who believe in true transparency, free speech, or whatever cause.
Centrists-- why am I in support of Assange? I have a natural aversion for anarchism but I recognize there's a time and place for all things. Every new idea is radical, Jesus or America. One's that perniciously get suppressed by well heeled interests defending their status quo pie tend to spring load. If this had not been suppressed for decades, if net neutrality became a football to wrestle over only to have the larger board tilted... clearly there is no redress or petitioning the law that gets bought out from under you. Peace at any price or war at any price doesn't work, and that's the economic arrangement between corporations and government in play for far too long.

Liberty is at stake when my ability to achieve informed consent (defend myself & liberty) continues to be undermined. I assert that what the government & corporations controlling media are engaged in is assaulting my 2nd amendment rights, right along with all citizens of the globe. The highest authority on the globe used to be the USA, but now that authority are trans national conglomerations beholden only to profit. This arrangement they mean to assert upon the globe is sowing the seeds of WW3. Streamlined processes to create the disease, then sell the cure. Instigate strife, then sell armaments.
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Old 12-09-2010, 03:14 PM
 
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Well I had to use immaturity in order to communicate with some, however I shall lower the bar next time to make it more understandable to you, but hey, to each their own huh. Now prove your own statements or are you making up stuff just like the OP?

You say "they" call(s) themselves "democratic socialist", show me where you found this information. Where did they say this or is it you saying that they said it? From the article posted in the OP, the only technical track of this attack was by a group "loosely" calling itself Anonops.net which is composed of internet vigilantes working under the premise (in their own statement, not mine) Operation:Payback is an ongoing campaign by Anonymous against major anti-piracy & anti-freedom entities The rest of the claims in the OP article state that they are "guessing". Guessing is not proof.

So Sour, now you get to prove your statements since you claim them as fact. Lets see the evidence of your claims.
If I'm ever arrested, I'd really appreciate having you as my juror. These other people don't appear to be interested in being an American.
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Old 12-09-2010, 03:17 PM
 
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This little fact seems to be lost on certain people. I suspect that their belief in "free speech", the rule of law and due process is limited to those that agree with them.
Yes the other "real Americans", the "United Supremicists of America" living out fantasies of a utopic confederacy. Thing is it's not about blacks, supremicists hate everyone equally right along with nazi's. That's what's dogging the GOP for a century now. Someone needs to rescue them from their own constituency.
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Old 12-09-2010, 03:23 PM
 
Location: Santa Barbara
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Why he could be the digital version of Ellsberg.
You should read the cables for yourself.

Why is the far right so scared ? What dirt is the party hiding they don't want uncovered ?
Ellsberg was saying last night on some interview I saw that they are doing to Assange exactly what they did to him when he released the Pentagon papers which amounted to a character assasination.
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