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Old 11-19-2010, 10:08 PM
 
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Can't say that I'm surprised. He probably thinks they will all be legal due to the Dream Act by that time. I sure do love the way we throw money away in this country.
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Old 11-19-2010, 10:10 PM
 
Location: Out in the Badlands
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Did y'all condemn Bush for failing to secure the border too?

Just askin'.
That is indeed the "W" I was referring to.
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Old 11-19-2010, 10:11 PM
 
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Can't say that I'm surprised. He probably thinks they will all be legal due to the Dream Act by that time. I sure do love the way we throw money away in this country.
Sounds like a wet dream to me.
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Old 11-19-2010, 10:13 PM
 
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Did y'all condemn Bush for failing to secure the border too?

Just askin'.
Well, Bush didn't do enough but he started the fence and Obama came in and defunded it. I don't recall Bush filing suit against any of our states either.

I'm not sure if that equates to my Dad is bigger than your Dad or whatever you may have been looking for.
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Old 11-20-2010, 12:27 AM
 
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And that is why our country is going to hell in a handbasket.
Because 550 National Guardsmen are withdrawn from the border?
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Old 11-20-2010, 12:31 AM
 
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Can't say that I'm surprised. He probably thinks they will all be legal due to the Dream Act...
If you don't know what the Dream Act does, you could look it up. Or you could show your ignorance - your call, I guess.

(Free hint: "Arrived as minors". Reading is very rewarding.)
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Old 11-20-2010, 12:36 AM
 
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Because 550 National Guardsmen are withdrawn from the border?
Where should National Guardsmen be if not on the border most prone to unlawful crossings? You know, guarding the nation and all. Of course there have to be many more than 550. But even 550 is better than nothing. With the ability to shoot on sight.
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Old 11-20-2010, 12:41 AM
 
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Where should National Guardsmen be if not on the border most prone to unlawful crossings? You know, guarding the nation and all. Of course there have to be many more than 550. But even 550 is better than nothing. With the ability to shoot on sight.
I'm just a dumb immigrant who obviously knows nothing of US legal precedence, so I'll just drop the words "posse commitatus" and let you do your own Googling, howzat?
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Old 11-20-2010, 12:54 AM
 
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I'm just a dumb immigrant who obviously knows nothing of US legal precedence, so I'll just drop the words "posse commitatus" and let you do your own Googling, howzat?
Why should I care about what you 'drop' with no explanation? Are you attempting to communicate or are you here just to posture?

p.s. since you called yourself a 'dumb immigrant', did you jump the south border as well?
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Old 11-20-2010, 06:41 AM
 
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You folks need to know that the National Guard has zero law enforcement authority. No military branch does, unless martial law is implemented. Which means, Guardsmen can't detain anyone. Who knows why Barry sent them there in the first place, but maybe that has something to do with why he's pulling them out - without the ability to actually capture anyone, the Guard has their hands tied and they can't do jacks**t at the border which effectively renders them 99% useless. I gave them 1% because they could still be additional eyes and ears for Border Patrol - then again we don't need the Guard for that. Volunteers do that for free.

I would've sent some Coast Guardies there (crazy as it sounds, I know) because they're the only defense arm that has always had law enforcement capabilities.
I'm sure the president, congress, or a state governor could authorize military troops to enforce something
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