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Wow, right wing heads will explode over this one-- How will they balance their bigotry with their love of states' rights? Or are they only for states' rights when it comes to things like being against the Civil Rights Act of 1964?
“The federal government, by enacting and enforcing DOMA, plainly encroaches upon the firmly entrenched province of the state, and in doing so, offends the Tenth Amendment. For that reason, the statute is invalid,” Tauro wrote in a ruling in a lawsuit filed by Attorney General Martha Coakley.
Wow! I wasn't expecting this! Everyone's been waiting for the decision on Prop. 8 in California. This decision is quite a surprise. The drama continues!
The decision makes a lot of sense. The federal government had never been involved in defining marriage for the entire country. Anyone in favor of states' rights should support this decision.
This is also a great "consolation prize" for Martha Coakley after having lost her race for the Senate in Massachusetts.
A big question: Will the Obama Administration appeal this decision? I wouldn't put it past them.
Last edited by AnUnidentifiedMale; 07-08-2010 at 04:23 PM..
Wow, right wing heads will explode over this one-- How will they balance their bigotry with their love of states' rights? Or are they only for states' rights when it comes to things like being against the Civil Rights Act of 1964?
DOMA says the federal government does not recognize same-sex marriages on the FEDERAL level. The law does NOT mandate states to not recognize same-sex marriages. The federal government also passed DOMA so that way homosexuals that emigrated here, or want to bring a homosexual immigrant into the country, will not be allowed to come here on a spousal or fiancee visa. That's the only purpose of DOMA.
Another irony in this decision: It may actually strengthen individual states' bans on same-sex marriage. If it does, so be it. I can live with that. I've just always thought that the Defense Of Marriage Act was wrong. The federal government should not be permitted to deny benefits such as Social Security to same-sex married couples in states where same-sex marriage is completely legal.
DOMA says the federal government does not recognize same-sex marriages on the FEDERAL level. The law does NOT mandate states to not recognize same-sex marriages. Fail
He never said that it did mandate states to recognize other states' same-sex marriages. I guess when your side loses, you have to come up with red herrings to make yourself feel better.
And just give it time. There's an obvious injustice in the federal government saying that all opposite-sex marriages must be recognized by all states, but same-sex marriages are not.
DOMA says the federal government does not recognize same-sex marriages on the FEDERAL level. The law does NOT mandate states to not recognize same-sex marriages. The federal government also passed DOMA so that way homosexuals that emigrated here, or want to bring a homosexual immigrant into the country, will not be allowed to come here on a spousal or fiancee visa. That's the only purpose of DOMA.
"The state had argued the law denied benefits such as Medicaid to gay married couples in Massachusetts, where same-sex unions have been legal since 2004. "
DOMA says the federal government does not recognize same-sex marriages on the FEDERAL level. The law does NOT mandate states to not recognize same-sex marriages. The federal government also passed DOMA so that way homosexuals that emigrated here, or want to bring a homosexual immigrant into the country, will not be allowed to come here on a spousal or fiancee visa. That's the only purpose of DOMA.
Well, no, obviously, that wasn't the only purpose of DOMA. Otherwise, Section 3 (which was struck down today) wouldn't have been included in the law.
Another irony in this decision: It may actually strengthen individual state's bans on same-sex marriage. If it does, so be it. I can live with that. I've just always thought that the Defense Of Marriage Act was wrong. The federal government should not be permitted to deny benefits such as Social Security to same-sex married couples in states where same-sex marriage is completely legal.
Exactly right.
I hear people complain about their states policies, and you know what, there are options.
However, when the Federal government bans something, that effects everyone. Which is why I think the Federal government should have no ban, on anything. States should be able to regulate their own laws.
Hell, bank robbery shouldn't even be a federal offense.
"The state had argued the law denied benefits such as Medicaid to gay married couples in Massachusetts, where same-sex unions have been legal since 2004. "
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Originally Posted by AnUnidentifiedMale
Another irony in this decision: It may actually strengthen individual state's bans on same-sex marriage. If it does, so be it. I can live with that. I've just always thought that the Defense Of Marriage Act was wrong. The federal government should not be permitted to deny benefits such as Social Security to same-sex married couples in states where same-sex marriage is completely legal.
This post is for both of you. None of you have any legal basis for what you said. Why? Because Social Security and Medicaid are FEDERALLY FUNDED programs. If the states want to let homosexuals get the benefits of such programs, the states can't accept federal funds for such programs
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