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Old 04-01-2011, 11:31 AM
 
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We've actually been there already--it is a neat space, and our food was excellent (to the point we both ate way too much, which reminded us of New Orleans!).
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Old 04-01-2011, 12:15 PM
 
Location: Philly
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This is no longer anecdotal," Coletta says. "Every metro area has good suburbs, but if you don't have a strong downtown and close-in neighborhoods, then you're not offering a choice that many of them are seeking. Offering that choice is a real competitive advantage for cities."
Urban centers draw more young, educated adults - USATODAY.com
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Old 04-01-2011, 04:13 PM
 
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Very interesting. Pittsburgh is definitely doing the right thing trying to expand its residential options in the core area--and I think we are going to need a lot more.
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Old 04-08-2011, 07:35 AM
 
Location: Philly
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im not surprised la gondola isnt benefitting but it sounds like things are going according to plan so.far
City, merchants mark renewed Market Square's first full outdoor season
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Old 04-08-2011, 09:04 AM
 
Location: Philly
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I can't help but think the city is improving in its core, in part, because this guy isn't foisting his plans on anyone
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People crowded into Market Square on Thursday to kick off the outdoor-dining season in the square's sterling new $5 million piazza. The mild temperatures and the Pirates home opener brought out folks in (no pun intended) scores....
Despite the demise of every Downtown movie theater during the 1970s and early '80s, Murphy wanted to put a multiplex on the site of the vacant G.C. Murphy store.
• Murphy favored razing the venerable Original Oyster House, a Pittsburgh landmark, to make room for a Dave & Busters. The vast restaurant and entertainment arcade eventually settled for space in the more big-box friendly environment of The Waterfront in Homestead.
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In The New York Times on Wednesday, he endorsed Quincy's risky desire to level 50 acres of prime Downtown property to build a $289 million development with housing, retail and offices. Sound familiar?
Read more: Murphy's folly lives on; Market Square thrives - Pittsburgh Tribune-Review Murphy's folly lives on; Market Square thrives - Pittsburgh Tribune-Review...

so, how much development is occurring for a modest $5 million dollar improvement to the square?
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Old 04-08-2011, 10:53 AM
 
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Yep, as noted in the article, Murphy wanted to turn the heart of Downtown into a suburban-style mall, which would have been a horrible mistake. Some damage was done, but fortunately most of his plan was never realized.

Personally, I don't fault the guy for wanting to revitalize Downtown. He just had the wrong vision for how to do that.
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Old 04-08-2011, 02:02 PM
 
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Murphy's plan sound like a repeat of the Allegheny Center Mall fiasco from the sixties. The whole attraction of downtown Pittsburgh is that it doesn't look like a suburban shopping mall. I love what they ended up doing with the G. C Murphy property, cleaning it up and re-using it instead of replacing it with some modern ugliness that would probably only last twenty years before they tore it down.
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Old 04-08-2011, 07:57 PM
 
Location: Pittsburgh
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im not surprised la gondola isnt benefitting but it sounds like things are going according to plan so.far
City, merchants mark renewed Market Square's first full outdoor season
He has a mediocre product. Plus he did nothing to improve his facade. It is survival of the fittest.
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Old 04-09-2011, 05:48 AM
 
Location: Marshall-Shadeland, Pittsburgh, PA
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Murphy's plan sound like a repeat of the Allegheny Center Mall fiasco from the sixties.
That place is disgusting.
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Old 04-21-2011, 08:10 AM
 
Location: Philly
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well, I'm no fan of TGI Friday's nor do I think it'll do a whole lot for downtown, but I think this is a good sign
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Amie Dancu, director of marketing for The Bistro Group, the T.G.I. Friday's franchisee, said the company was drawn by not only the allure of the new arena and its partnership with the Penguins, but also by the chance to be Downtown.
"With all the growth happening and the potential for growth, we feel it's a very good fit for the brand," she said. "We believe there's a need for a full-service establishment in Downtown Pittsburgh
Read more: Friday's expands to Consol Energy Center
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