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Old 01-18-2012, 02:18 PM
 
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I think it's a great idea. Other business open 24 hours is an emergency animal hospital.

There used to be one in the North Side years ago, but now all of the 24 hour emergency animal hospitals are in the suburbs.
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Old 01-18-2012, 02:22 PM
 
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All of those services already operate 24/7.
That's the idea. If we can get some 24/7 businesses to centralize somewhere, other businesses would open and stay open, like diners, etc.

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A 24/7 city is never gonna happen in Pittsburgh, even though the Washington Post says we are "hip."
We don't want a 24/7 city. We just want a 24/7 neighborhood.
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Old 01-18-2012, 02:36 PM
 
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If this develops organically, OK, but why does this need to be forced?
I don't see it so much as forced but encouraged. It would need however elements to guarantee the area stays active 24 hours, namely anchors which is the approach malls and shopping centers use. The idea is to achieve a critical mass so that it can continue to develop in a more organic way.
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Old 01-18-2012, 02:36 PM
 
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That's the idea. If we can get some 24/7 businesses to centralize somewhere, other businesses would open and stay open, like diners, etc.


We don't want a 24/7 city. We just want a 24/7 neighborhood.

Are you saying bring all 24/7 businesses to one area? Maybe I'm missing the point, but if someone wants a bite to eat late at night, they have to drive (since there won't be bus service) to one spot? I would thinkthese type of businesses shouldn't be limited to just one area.
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Old 01-18-2012, 02:37 PM
 
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The strip hasn't been the nightlife district for quite some time
Ok, scratch Strip District. Although it does seem to have development possibilities. But I'm open to any place where it can take root.
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Old 01-18-2012, 02:42 PM
 
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Ok, scratch Strip District. Although it does seem to have development possibilities. But I'm open to any place where it can take root.
How about New York?
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Old 01-18-2012, 02:43 PM
 
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All of those services already operate 24/7.
That was my point. You want stuff that already operates 24/7 to anchor such a district.

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If you can get PAT to do that, good luck. They are planning on cutting services.
Sort of thinking long term. Eventually.

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A 24/7 city is never gonna happen in Pittsburgh, even though the Washington Post says we are "hip."
Not the city, but a district. I think a 24/7 city is not likely. Focus on an area to achieve a critical mass because if it is spread out, it would die.
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Old 01-18-2012, 02:53 PM
 
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Sort of thinking long term. Eventually..
Eventually there may be no transit at all if these cuts and politics keep up.

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Not the city, but a district. I think a 24/7 city is not likely. Focus on an area to achieve a critical mass because if it is spread out, it would die.
You need hospitals in other areas besides one central location. Eat n Park is open 24 hours. Would you like to see one ENP in one area or multiple locations? If you have these services centralized in one area, that would survive. What about the other neighborhoods that have no such service? I would think they would die. Look at Braddock. That area was barely surviving even more when Braddock Hospital closed. Now that it's closed, the y have nothing.
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Old 01-18-2012, 02:54 PM
 
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Are you saying bring all 24/7 businesses to one area? Maybe I'm missing the point, but if someone wants a bite to eat late at night, they have to drive (since there won't be bus service) to one spot? I would thinkthese type of businesses shouldn't be limited to just one area.
No, I'm not talking about limiting 24/7 businesses to that area. If someone wants to open a 24/7 diner in Plum...fine. But places like NYC like to brag that they are always open and SCR laments that places in the 'Burgh close too early. Well, there can be an area of Pittsburgh that is always open with almost anything you want to do. As posted above, a 24-hour vet, maybe a 24-hour laundromat and dry-cleaners, 24-hour bowling...whatever. But it would need government services and business that never close anyway as anchors to keep in economically viable and would need to be promoted.
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Old 01-18-2012, 02:54 PM
 
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even for a district you need 24/7 public transit serving that district....and as stated PAT is cutting service not expanding, so even a 24/7 is nothing more than a pipe dream at this point.

I think Central East Liberty would be the perfect catalyst for such a plan....but again 24/7 public transit would be needed.
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