Holy Panhandling Batman! (Phoenix, Tucson, Mesa: rent, motel, living in)

[boiker]

Originally Posted by ji603

So now, if you have to look at some sun-baked, filthy bum stretching his dried up paw at you and your family, thank a democrat.

Usually it's libertarians that want less government interference in social issues. A reduction in laws would be something promoted by them. Do you have an article or something that references democrats promoting elimination of this law?

[ibarrio]

Originally Posted by boiker

Usually it's libertarians that want less government interference in social issues. A reduction in laws would be something promoted by them. Do you have an article or something that references democrats promoting elimination of this law?

Probably saw an email and now thinks it's true.

[ji603]

Originally Posted by ibarrio

Probably saw an email and now thinks it's true.

Here you go fellas, plenty of historical background... Right from your mothership, no less.

http://scholarship.law.berkeley.edu/...ornialawreview

[locolobo13]

I don't know the laws but I have seen DPS chasing panhandlers off the medians at freeway intersections. Of course they or another take the same place as soon as the officer is gone.

[pbenjamin]

Originally Posted by ji603

Here you go fellas, plenty of historical background... Right from your mothership, no less.

http://scholarship.law.berkeley.edu/...ornialawreview

A quick scan does not turn up "democrat", "ACLU", "Prius" or "bleeding heart". I guess the very fact that this comes from the country's top public university makes it evil.

[ibarrio]

1989, California law? Yup, it's the democrats fault in Arizona. Could you reach anymore? The courts ruled first amendment. Governor Brewer didn't sign it into law what can be outlawed

Kavanaugh tried to pass a new law to stem the flow of street beggars.

"Aggressive panhandling, that can be outlawed, that's what my bill would have done.

Kavanaugh's legislation passed, but the Governor didn't sign it into law.

Panhandling: why there is an increase in panhandlers - FOX 10 News | fox10phoenix.com

[Bondurant]

Originally Posted by ji603

It used to be against phoenix city code to be a vagrant inside city limits. Then a bunch of bleeding hearts decided that wasn't fair to the bums and winos. So the rest of us have to put up with them. For a good long while, it was against phoenix city code to stand on, in, or near the roadway for the purpose of soliciting donations. Then a bunch of bleeding hearts decided that wasn't fair to the bums and winos too.

So now, if you have to look at some sun-baked, filthy bum stretching his dried up paw at you and your family, thank a democrat. Either the one who worked for the ACLU and overturned the city's laws which one upon a time kept our cities neat and orderly, or the one in the prius ahead of you at the stop light, who just rolled down the window and gave the bum a dollar- thereby ensuring he'll be back tomorrow...

The cops would love to help clean up the panhandlers, but guess what- there's no political or judicial support for it. And so the decline of society continues.

There's a current petition circulating to overturn a "public camping" law in Phoenix. I know the folks behind it and reaching out to local elected officials and their sycophants. Oddly enough, they encounter the most derision from those that fancy themselves progressives.

Your assumptions are just that.

[SageCats]

On the I-10 / 7Th Ave ramp, there are so many panhandlers. Every day there are a couple of new people. While waiting for the light to turn green, I observed one of them holding up a sign saying he was hungry. A car in front of me rolled down the window and called him over. He gave the hungry man a banana. The panhandler was so pissed, he walked away cussing up a storm and flailing his arms. He left the banana on the side of the road and started to walk away. At that point, the light turned green and we all drove away.
A friend of mine told me that his brother was homeless for a while by choice because he made good money panhandling.

[DetroitN8V]

Originally Posted by Pallas_Athena

A friend of mine told me that his brother was homeless for a while by choice because he made good money panhandling.

Homeless by choice because he made so much money? Think about that one for a moment.

[stevek64]

Originally Posted by ji603

It used to be against phoenix city code to be a vagrant inside city limits.

I didn't know that!

Originally Posted by tiger08

This problem has gotten just as bad in Vegas also, in fact it's getting downright ridiculous!

yeah, I agree. We've been going to Las Vegas for many years now to mostly hang out and we noticed the same thing in recent years. The strip used to be free of panhandlers but last time we were there it was crawling with them.

Originally Posted by swbrotha100

That sounds like a law passed in Tucson a few years ago. Can't panhandle or hang out on the median in the city limits.

Certainly seems to be working because every time we are in Tucson, we see zero people panhandling. I have a feeling cities around the Phoenix metro are going to start passing a similiar law.